Got myself some sticky tyres

ScoobyDoo69 · 5 Apr 2011 at 10:54

Picked these up last night

They apparently came off an Evo 9 FQ-360 ?

Size of these things compared to the POS's I had on the BBS before...

I think they will be great for track days and the like

Disco Boy · 5 Apr 2011 at 10:59

Part worn tyres will kill you in a big fireball as soon as your car even sees them.

Do you have new wheels as well? They look a lot wider than the old tyres?

MeEsH BaKkA · 5 Apr 2011 at 12:16

What width rims do you have? On 7.5" the turn in might not be as sharp especially with 45 profiles as the side wall may balloon a bit on the smaller rim.

You will have fun with cornering either way though, the grip will be huge. what suspension do you have?

ScoobyDoo69 · 5 Apr 2011 at 12:43

They are wider than the old ones, but the picture makes them look more so than they really are. Going from 225/45/17 to 235/45/17. Yup 7.5" rim, the 225 is optimum, 235 is max apparently. But as it's a semi slick, the sidewall will be pretty tough!
Either way they're going to be a whole lot better than the tyres on them currently, the sidewall practically collapsed on my last track day

Nothing special suspension wise, just the usual Prodrive gubbins.

spaz · 5 Apr 2011 at 15:24

Supposedly semi-slick tyres such as those actually work better with a bit of a stretch as it helps by giving less sidewall deflection (given their intended use etc), however I'm currently running slightly wider R888s than what is standard (235 vs 225 section) and haven't found anything to suggest that so far, although going on track later this month and getting a good feel for them should give me a better idea if they are or not.

Gibbo · 5 Apr 2011 at 15:33

ScoobyDoo69 said:
They are wider than the old ones, but the picture makes them look more so than they really are. Going from 225/45/17 to 235/45/17. Yup 7.5" rim, the 225 is optimum, 235 is max apparently. But as it's a semi slick, the sidewall will be pretty tough!
Either way they're going to be a whole lot better than the tyres on them currently, the sidewall practically collapsed on my last track day

Nothing special suspension wise, just the usual Prodrive gubbins.

A048 is an immense tyre, but there are different compounds. They have incredibly stiff sidewalls and the most noticable change you will feel is turn-in and feedback from the car when fitted in a positive manner. The downside will be a harsher ride.

The problem the A048 is not used any longer is because they are very hard to get heat into and on a cold/wet day can be very slippery.

Once warmed up they are exceptional and unlike R888's they handle heat much better so won't overheat on you on track.

ScoobyDoo69 · 5 Apr 2011 at 16:57

Thanks Gibbo. I am more than 100% sure that they will be awesome on track, MUCH better than the tyres which melted on me previously. Can't wait to get them fitted to try them out

Dabbles · 5 Apr 2011 at 18:07

Are they road legal?

ScoobyDoo69 · 5 Apr 2011 at 18:18

NathanE · 5 Apr 2011 at 19:03

They're good for about 5000 road miles, tops, and that's on a feather-light Exige. Fun though

Matmulder · 5 Apr 2011 at 21:52

NathanE said:
They're good for about 5000 road miles, tops, and that's on a feather-light Exige. Fun though

Utterly pointless on the road, TBH. Feasomely expensive, crap wear rate, scary in anything other than dry conditions, downright dangerous in standing water.....

...and when it is dry, and you've warmed them up, the grip levels are so high that you'd have to be stark raving bonkers to make full use of them on the road. Great for track work, however! New pair of rears just cost me £450 :/

Gibbo · 5 Apr 2011 at 22:28

Matmulder said:
Utterly pointless on the road, TBH. Feasomely expensive, crap wear rate, scary in anything other than dry conditions, downright dangerous in standing water.....

...and when it is dry, and you've warmed them up, the grip levels are so high that you'd have to be stark raving bonkers to make full use of them on the road. Great for track work, however! New pair of rears just cost me £450 :/

Sorry I disagree. On the road in the dry its easy to use all their grip up if you know your car. I run the AD08's which are 90% as good in the dry and I can easily push them beyond their limits on the road. In a car like a Scooby and EVO its incredibly easy to do so because when you exceed the cars tyres grip levels that is where EVO's and Scoobies come into their own, they handle exceptionally well even when pushed beyond their grip limits.

In the cold and wet yes they are slippy, but they are by no means a death trap, just drive to their grip levels which a tyre like this very easily communicates to you. However on a warm wet day the grip levels tend to be excellent.

Yes A048 cannot handle standing water and as such you need to keep speeds sub 50mph in heavy standing water situations, but again just drive to the conditions.

For the dry grip such tyres offer I'd happily go with the dis-advantages for the fact they tend to grip that much more but even more so for the extra feedback they provide and communication to the driver.

Berger · 5 Apr 2011 at 23:07

If you are using all available grip from a tyre (especially a semi slick in the dry) on the road (apart from accelerating), does that not mean that you have made an error in your driving judgement somewhere leaving no margin for error?

sigma · 5 Apr 2011 at 23:16

Berger said:
If you are using all available grip from a tyre (especially a semi slick in the dry) on the road (apart from accelerating), does that not mean that you have made an error in your driving judgement somewhere leaving no margin for error?

Sounds dangerous IMO.

Begbie · 5 Apr 2011 at 23:17

Berger said:
If you are using all available grip from a tyre (especially a semi slick in the dry) on the road (apart from accelerating), does that not mean that you have made an error in your driving judgement somewhere leaving no margin for error?

Just means your going bloody quick on the roads.

Simon · 5 Apr 2011 at 23:31

Most cars leave the road when the run out of grip. Sounds like a need a Magnetic Subaru

I've been looking at these tyres lately, but as said I think they are only useful in the dry on a track. Certainly don't make sense on a daily drive

ChrisJSY · 6 Apr 2011 at 06:09

Gibbo said:
Sorry I disagree. On the road in the dry its easy to use all their grip up if you know your car. I run the AD08's which are 90% as good in the dry and I can easily push them beyond their limits on the road.

Are you talking about public road use or track?

Gibbo · 6 Apr 2011 at 08:28

ChrisJSY said:
Are you talking about public road use or track?

Road and track.

I've got the AD08's, I can push them beyond grip and make them squeal like a bunch of girls. Just because your going beyond the tyres grip does not make it dangerous as the break-away on such tyres is very progressive.

jon- · 6 Apr 2011 at 10:20

Tried the Super Sports yet Gibbo?

sigma · 6 Apr 2011 at 16:41

You must be traveling at stupendous speeds to be able to break grip on semi-slicks on the road though, surely? Far too quick for other road users to react.