My Ultima Dreadnought system is degrading... FAST.

dandruff123

dandruff123

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Well... there are no "obvious" performance issues BUT man... the temps are just well... embarassing/annoying/ you name it. The system i am using is the Ultima Dreadnought

Before i bought this system, i was thinking oh how i was gonna enjoy the under 40C temps but i was wrong. 4 months later and look

Look at my POOR temps :(
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I see the Ultimate dreadnought has changed from Megahalems to H70. iFail.

Im not gonna bother cleaning it anymore, im just gonna let this stupid crap degrade.

Look at the TEMP when i first purchased my PC, its good i kept this screenshot

Look:
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Nothing is overclocked either!
 
The main reason the temps would change like that over 4 months is that you haven't been maintaining the system properly and the fans and insides have been clogged up with dust.

Maybe you should check inside the system, or even, god forbid, drop OCUK a lil webnote?
 
Were ambient temperatures the same on both occasions, the past few days have been particularly warm and it maybe hard to compare winter temps to warm spring. Are all your fan grills and heatsink fins clear of any fluff? Are the maximums in the first picture from 100% load?
 
I don't know guys, i think i'll just leave it like this, but i just wanted to let you guys know that PC's still need maintenance so much and this is the huge upper hand that Consoles have.

I am not familiar with how to open a PC etc

2 weeks ago i forced pulled the dust filter cage (i got so ****ed off, it still works though and i can pull out the dust filter now hooray :/)

I mean thinking about it now, school pc's work for years with huge amounts of dust. ZZZZZZ i hate this so much!

Why can't it just be "Buy a damn PC and enjoy it for 10 years?" sigh...
 
Why are you using different software to compare? Use the same speed fan that you used before. In my view the speedfan values were wrong anyway, at least for me speedfan for CPU temperatures is wrong.

Also temperatures look fine to be honest, 60oC at load? That is fine and 30-40oC idle isn't too bad either.
 
Cuchulain said:
You need to be taught how to use a screwdriver (or twirl a couple of thumbscrews) seriously?
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sorry, i do know but the more advanced stuff like changing a graphics card etc. Dont worry though, i'll keep it on like this for a little while and see what happens

As always.. let the dust rule! :X

I am hardware challenged (if there is such a term lol:/)
 
You've used two different software packages that are widely known to give different readings. 40c at idle is hardly anything to worry about anyway.
 
Yeah, consoles don't fail, consoles also don't run hotter or louder on a very warm summers day vs a very cold winters day.

What I'm seeing is, idle temps around 30C, months ago, in the dead of winter, and today, your temps are 40C, and the ambient temps are up well over 10C in my room vs 4 months ago, though I have a particularly terrible "hot box" room. In a "normal" room the ambient change is likely smaller if you consider central heating keeping a room at near 20C, vs warm temps today at 24-25C.

The "maximum" temps are simply load temps, they are still WELL in range of safety, by a mile.

Basically, theres nothing wrong, theres nothing not working, its not crashing. The only difference is you've monitored the temps, that school computer that works with loads of dust on it, its both not a high end system and IF you monitored the temps, mid winter vs summer temps would fluctuate exactly the same amount, same with a console, stick a temp probe in there, check it in summer vs winter = big difference.

Ignorance is bliss, or more to the point, monitoring is pointless.

Know temps IF you want to overclock and want a ROUGH idea on how much headroom you have. If you have a phenom 2 running at 55C at stock, whacking it to 4Ghz and adding 0.3v is probably a bad idea, but it will only be unstable, not die. If you aren't doing anything where the temps matter, what do you care if it runs at 4C, or 444C, if its working, its working?

Now if the computer stops working and starts crashing, and you check temps and they are insane, sure, somethings wrong, but warmer temps on a warmer day is a bit like saying,

"hey, half my hard drive capacity has dissappeared......... is it because I took out one of my hard drives the other day?" The response in both cases would pretty much be one word.... du'h.

If its cold and wet tomorrow, will you post when your temps have gone down 10C?
 
dandruff123 said:
I don't know guys, i think i'll just leave it like this, but i just wanted to let you guys know that PC's still need maintenance so much and this is the huge upper hand that Consoles have.

I am not familiar with how to open a PC etc

2 weeks ago i forced pulled the dust filter cage (i got so ****ed off, it still works though and i can pull out the dust filter now hooray :/)

I mean thinking about it now, school pc's work for years with huge amounts of dust. ZZZZZZ i hate this so much!

Why can't it just be "Buy a damn PC and enjoy it for 10 years?" sigh...
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So basically you bought an expensive piece of cutting-edge technology without the slightest clue of either how to use, or most importantly, maintain it? :confused:
 
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Can someone remind me why 60°C is a terrible temperature on an i7? Mine will reach over 80°C easily, though it is passively cooled.

I'd also echo others. You bought a PC for >£1000, and can't be arsed to, I don't know, clean it occasionally? I'm guessing you have a car with about 3cm of mud and crap on the outside, and dust/mud etc on the inside, because you haven't been trained in cleaning?
 
You always need to clean your system and make sure theres no dust surrounding the computer as well. Your also using two different kinds of temp monitoring software.. which will mean u have different temps stright away check your temps with coretemp as well just to check.
 
1) You're using different temp monitoring software

2) You have absolutely no idea what the ambient temperatures (room temperature) was when you took these readings? If the first reading was at a room temperature of 16 dgrees and the seconds was ata room temp of 22 degrees, you will obviously see a temp increase of 6 degrees before you start.

3) have you given the fan and, more importantly fins on the h70/ megahalems, a blast with a can of compressed air? Dust WILL hamper cooling performance. Both of these are excellent coolers and will happilly cope with an i7 chip at 4GHz all day.

4) The temps you are seeing are absoulutely fine for your CPU. I can't believe you can be so anal about a few degrees yet in your next breath proclaim that you're not going to look after the system, outright refuse to clean it and have the intention to basically let it rot?

Marvin said:
I'd also echo others. You bought a PC for >£1000, and can't be arsed to, I don't know, clean it occasionally? I'm guessing you have a car with about 3cm of mud and crap on the outside, and dust/mud etc on the inside, because you haven't been trained in cleaning?
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Username = "Dandruff123"

prob doesn't shower either. :D

Seriously though.....PC's need a clean the same as any other appliance in the house. I'd put money on the fact that this is your problem.
 
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dandruff123 said:
Why can't it just be "Buy a damn PC and enjoy it for 10 years?" sigh...
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Forone your school PC will be low tech and not overclocked, and everyone will be the same just enough to do a your course work, surf the net in other word but one get 10 free. I dout very much if a school PC costs a third of what you paid.

By the way your IT guy's looks after them checks them over when you are on holiday, etc. Thats why they seem to never go wrong.
 
Without some form of refrigeration/heat pump you can never achieve temps below ambient and that as ambient temps go up so will the temperature of the computer. Ever been running on a cold day and tried to run at the same intensity on a hot day without managing to get a lot more hot and sweaty? Now as suggested above go get a can of compressed air, a screwdriver and use the same software to test temps before and after you give the computer a bit of a clean.
 
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Or you could sell it and get a PS3 and a basic laptop. No maintenance there!

If you're going to keep it you seriously need to learn how to look after it, it doesn't take much.
 
pv123 said:
Why are you using different software to compare? Use the same speed fan that you used before. In my view the speedfan values were wrong anyway, at least for me speedfan for CPU temperatures is wrong.

Also temperatures look fine to be honest, 60oC at load? That is fine and 30-40oC idle isn't too bad either.
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Speedfan is wrong, Real Temp GT is the only accurate way tbh...
 
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