Need some advice - Finishing Uni, where to go and live next

Fubsy said:
Maybe it's to make the idea of "living" on benefits that little bit less appealing as soon as soon as they become eligible for them.
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It's because under 25s should be able to get an unskilled job being at their physical prime. Under 25s are also expected to flatshare.

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One area which will now begin to have a lot of unskilled jobs is the retail/bar and fast food industry. A lot of these jobs were done by people on student visas. Now that they are planning to remove the work permit element of a student visa, there should be plenty of jobs available there.
 
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Whackeygrunt said:
LMAO! No thanks. £400 a month would probably get me a motel room. For one night.
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It might not be as expensive as you think to live in London (or at least within commuting distance) and there's likely to be more job opportunities there than there will be local to you. However it would certainly help to have a bit of money to start you off after a move because even if you move and get a job straight away the chances are you won't get the income for a few weeks at least.

If you don't want to move to London because of friends/family where you are then I can understand that but ruling it out just because it is more expensive might not be a great plan as there are usually far more jobs and you'll often find jobs either pay more anyway and/or have London weighting to help compensate.
 
ghost101 said:
Why is it funny? In London where I live, I see plenty of foreign students (some with awful english) simply walk into rubbish jobs on student visas earning minimum wage (~£6/hr soon).

If you are willing to take minimum wage, there are jobs out there.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/s...udents/applyingforanadultstudentvisa/#header7
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I didn't laugh at that, I laughed at your, "under 25s are inferior and therefore must take inferior jobs and live in inferior conditions with the other inferiors 25 year olds" post.
 
franco_22 said:
I didn't laugh at that, I laughed at your, "under 25s are inferior and therefore must take inferior jobs and live in inferior conditions with the other inferiors 25 year olds" post.
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Well you have to make a cut off somewhere. Perhaps 25 is too low?

That's simply what the rules are. For example, look at how housing benefits work.

This is for inner city East London. A pretty popular place for students and young people.

https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Listo...droomCalculatorPageParameters=true&BrmaId=142

Under 25s fall into "Shared Accomodation" category only.

Note that these rates incorporate the new caps introduced by the current Government. Also they've moved from the 50th percentile to the 30th percentile.
 
Sorry, I lived in a country that doesn't discriminate on age for too long to agree with any of your arguements.

How the labour cost of a 16 year old who is doing the exact same job as a 18 year old who in turn is doing the same job as a 21 year old is simply ridiculous, it discourages young people from wanting to work and is quite demeaning. I know countries richer then England where you will see 13 year old natives working in MacDonalds because they will earn the same as a 18 year old would earn, here places like that are filled with immigrants because no one wants to do it and older people who would be paid a proper wage have access to better jobs. How England still gets away with this I don't understand. It's the exact same thing as giving a man £10/h for a job and then giving a woman £6/h to do the exact same thing. The only difference is women have unions, children/teenagers don't. Classic case of taking advantage of the little guy.
 
Sorry to sidetrack the thread slightly, just have a question re council tax;

I'm going to be sharing a flat with my girlfriend next year, she will be a full time student and I won't be. Will I have to personally pay full rate of council tax or is it possible to get any sort of discount? I seem to recall someone I know who is not a student, sharing a house with three students and he claims he gets some sort of reduction as the other three are exempt.

Any ideas? Excuse my ignorance on the matter.
 
jidh007 said:
Sorry to sidetrack the thread slightly, just have a question re council tax;

I'm going to be sharing a flat with my girlfriend next year, she will be a full time student and I won't be. Will I have to personally pay full rate of council tax or is it possible to get any sort of discount? I seem to recall someone I know who is not a student, sharing a house with three students and he claims he gets some sort of reduction as the other three are exempt.

Any ideas? Excuse my ignorance on the matter.
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you will get a 25% discount thats all :mad:

god knows why you dont get a 50% discount if one of you is a FT student
 
@franco

As far as benefits are concerned, it is largely done to simply save money.

With regards to minimum wage, there is nothing to stop a 16 year old earning more than the minimum wage. However, how many 16 year olds are employable at £6/hr? They work part time and have other priorities.
 
MrMoonX said:
you will get a 25% discount thats all :mad:

god knows why you dont get a 50% discount if one of you is a FT student
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Ahh, thank you, any idea where I could find out about this? Have been trawling direct.gov but haven't found anything particularly useful! I might be being slightly retarded.

25% is a bit mad, I agree, it should be 50%! Very odd. Oh well!
 
Whackeygrunt said:
OK I am almost at the end of my Uni course (about 5 weeks of small reports left) and I'm currently in a tenancy agreement until the end of June though may be movign out earlier depending on how a new place will work out.

So with this £400 already there I will receive an income of £400 benefits a month (dole and housing benefits).
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What sort of attitude is that?

Sorry but 'get a job you bum'

I don't know anyone who finished uni and then considered benefits as an option - get a bar job or go temping while you look for a proper job. Looking at benefits as an option post uni is a massive life fail tbh.. you should be ashamed and embarrassed for even considering it.
 
jidh007 said:
Ahh, thank you, any idea where I could find out about this? Have been trawling direct.gov but haven't found anything particularly useful! I might be being slightly retarded.

25% is a bit mad, I agree, it should be 50%! Very odd. Oh well!
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In which case it would always be beneficial for single people to have a token student registered at the address?
 
ghost101 said:
In which case it would always be beneficial for single people to have a token student registered at the address?
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Maybe, perhaps it depends on the student:non-student ratio? I.e. 1 student and three non-students living together might mean that the non-students likely don't get any discount? I personally don't know. I don't actually know why I'm trying to answer that question!
 
semi-pro waster said:
I wouldn't be 100% certain but I'd suspect it is because people over 25 are more likely to have commitments (e.g. family, mortgage etc) than those under 25 and are additionally less likely to be able to go back to their parents for support. It's probably not entirely fair but that would be my guess without having researched it.
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No idea myself why but it royaly sucks, instead of set rates it should depends on individual circumstances.

At the age of 15 I was forced out of foster care into a 1 bedroom flat living on my own with no family or education. I had to live of £35 a week ended up in a lot of dept. Even tho foster care system said they would help I never heard from them again.

Anyways long story short ended up homeless at the age of 17 then prison for 1 year.
All I did in that year was studie literally had my head in books 16 hours a day every day. Got out for good behavior after 8 months. Spent another 2 years studying and sorting out my life out. I actually received more help for me aged 18 than I had at aged 15.

At the age of 23 I setup my own business and now at aged 28 I own 3 successful business.

I still have no formal qualifications of any sort.


Anyways the system royally sucks and needs to change. Rant over
 
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