YouTube scanning music playing in background of your video. Whoa!

KatanaDV20 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:13

So check this out guys...

I decided to shoot a video of my house to give family & friends all over the world a tour of my pad :cool:

The TV was one while I was filming. The channel was VIVA and a song by Ke$ha was playing. So I shoot the video and then upload to YouTube.

After upload finishes an alert appears:

Your video contains content from SME (Sony Music Entertainment) and will not be visibile in the following countries:

Germany. France.

You need to take no further action and your video will be visible in all other countries.

Dayuuuum...you mean they have software that listens out for and scans ANYTHING in the background??!! So you could have the radio on while shooting a vid and it can ID the label the singer/band is from!!

Strife212 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:14

Not that advanced, most mobile phones can do it in real time now if you want to ID a song you hear on TV / in a club

KatanaDV20 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:16

Strife212 said:
Not that advanced, most mobile phones can do it in real time now if you want to ID a song you hear on TV / in a club

Lol oh yea forgot about that...how does it work though?? Software scans the drum beat or melody or something? Its all very clever I think hee hee. Kinda freaked me out TBH :eek:

!!

Tikkabhuna · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:17

Strife212 said:
Not that advanced, most mobile phones can do it in real time now if you want to ID a song you hear on TV / in a club

My mate does that. Such an awesome app. Shame it doesn't work to well on some mixes.

explicit4u · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:19

shazam is the app that does this.

http://gizmodo.com/#!5647458/how-shazam-works-to-identify-nearly-every-song-you-throw-at-it

That explains how it works.

KatanaDV20 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:26

explicit4u said:
shazam is the app that does this.

http://gizmodo.com/#!5647458/how-shazam-works-to-identify-nearly-every-song-you-throw-at-it

That explains how it works.

Nice 1 m8, readin that now!!

Lakeland · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:27

I've tried uploading a few tracks and it's come back saying copyright! Wonder if you can stop it from working by compressing the audio so that the waveform is just a solid block

fez · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:34

Its not tricky to be honest, a song is a song. Its made by sound waves so its just a case of matching them with a database of songs that they have on record.

Shazam does it really well. The only time it doesn't find a match is when its an obscure song that is unlikely to have been archived in their database.

You do it all the time, you hear the first few bars of a song and you know what it is straight away.

KatanaDV20 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:43

You do it all the time, you hear the first few bars of a song and you know what it is straight away.

Hey...ur right!

Didnt think of it that way...lol now I feel like an idiot for starting this thread!

I was just like "What...they picked up what was on TV?!"

Strife212 · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:44

Lakeland said:
I've tried uploading a few tracks and it's come back saying copyright! Wonder if you can stop it from working by compressing the audio so that the waveform is just a solid block

If you compressed it until the waveform was a solid block it would just be a continuous tone...

Cleeecooo · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:51

Lol, Youtube and copyright gone mad

Energize · 12 Apr 2011 at 23:59

Welcome to last year.

cu3ed · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:04

Despite that its picked it up..I have quite a few run ins with lables and any remixes I might make etc...I could understand ( to a small point tho, as i never used the full song, its been drastically changed, and not for sale to make money from downloads etc) about using their song....but thats just absolutly pathetic...I cant fathom how this works...maybe its ignorence on my part...so if somone can explain..but how exactly is that going to loose the label money etc?

Lakeland · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:13

Strife212 said:
If you compressed it until the waveform was a solid block it would just be a continuous tone...

This is what I was meaning, make sure your speakers are turned down lower than usual

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrixraZPvrI

Theophany · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:19

You can fool the technology by fooling around with a track's audio 'fingerprint.'

http://www.csh.rit.edu/~parallax/

Bare in mind this test was done in 2009 and the author's YouTube account has been shut down since, so I would imagine the algorithm has been tightened up substantially. An interesting read nonetheless, altering pitch and tempo yielded results pretty much indistinct from the originals

pepp77 · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:20

My best mate is the Operations Director at Shazam (he joined them when they were just starting) and it was funny to hear the stories of them manually putting a CD in and ripping each song to a database (now its much more automated).

But basically yeah when you use the app it takes a sample of the song and sends it to shazam, they then compare that song to the database and send back the result.

I know they have been working on getting more obscure versions of as many songs as possible in the db, but I guess there will always be some missing.

Van Hellseek · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:27

Christ, this is absolutely pathetic. When will people learn that data can only be shared, not sold? It's impossible to try to claim rights to 1's and 0's

NickK · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:40

Van Hellseek said:
Christ, this is absolutely pathetic. When will people learn that data can only be shared, not sold? It's impossible to try to claim rights to 1's and 0's

What if the data is the result of a someone's investment or effort?

Your definition of 'data' = f(someone elses £)

Please evaluate your idea - perhaps it should be impossible for you to claim rights to payment for your effort in working? Or perhaps your claim of ownership of your car or clothes you wear.

But this is a different thread..

Lakeland · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:43

We don't see any money in return for OUR personal DATA, perhaps we need an internet union.

bitslice · 13 Apr 2011 at 00:44

Van Hellseek said:
Christ, this is absolutely pathetic. When will people learn that data can only be shared, not sold? It's impossible to try to claim rights to 1's and 0's

Well yeh, if you only want Rebecca Black then fine, personally I want talented singers to think it's still worthwhile selling their abilities to people willing to pay.