best internet providers for no traffic management... ideas needed please

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I've been a customer of virgin media for almost 2 years now and im in the process of finding another provider due to reoccuring annoyances with traffic management. I play p2p games a lot such as wow and black ops and whenever they download patches and other large files my speed gets axed. Im not a fan of cerfews, being told when i can and cant download so i need a new provider that doesnt have traffic management, has a stable 10-20mb conn and no more than £25 a month inc line rental, ideas pleasssse :)
 
I'm still on a very stable O2 Broadband that gives me 13-14Mb/s in Speedtest, around 30ms in Pingtest. The connection hasn't dropped for a week now and if it does, it resets over night so I don't really notice it.

£10/month if you're an O2 customer. Don't know if they still offer this broadband though.

It's totally unlimited and I can download at 1.7MB/s from decent servers if nobody else is using the network.
 
I'm in the same boat as you mate, I'm considering Infinity, but unsure how they impact live with their P2P management and no-one seems to answer my question when I ask.
 
I think be unlimited might be worth looking into I'm on O2 like krugs but the Be stuff is meant to be good as long as your in the right area to get a good speed. It'll never keep up with the cable connections though until BT renew the infrastructure.
 
Upgrade to 50mb, it's not as expensive as it used to be due to 100mb rollouts and the traffic management disappears then :). Most other providers cannot touch VM when it comes to speed and consistency.
 
Mattyjw said:
I think be unlimited might be worth looking into I'm on O2 like krugs but the Be stuff is meant to be good as long as your in the right area to get a good speed. It'll never keep up with the cable connections though until BT renew the infrastructure.
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Don't be rent lines from O2?
 
Cr416 said:
Upgrade to 50mb, it's not as expensive as it used to be due to 100mb rollouts and the traffic management disappears then :). Most other providers cannot touch VM when it comes to speed and consistency.
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VM limit P2P traffic at peak times on all tiers, including 50/100Mb so may not be suitable for the OP
 
Cr416 said:
Upgrade to 50mb, it's not as expensive as it used to be due to 100mb rollouts and the traffic management disappears then :). Most other providers cannot touch VM when it comes to speed and consistency.
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I hate people who post mis-informed information.

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Virgin DO limit P2P, Newsgroups (unless you use SSL port 443) both upstream and downstream at peak times.

The information is clear to see on the Virgin website.
 
PistolPete said:
VM limit P2P traffic at peak times on all tiers, including 50/100Mb so may not be suitable for the OP
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lol well don't all ISP's limit file sharing at peak times?

File sharing
We moderate the total volume of file sharing traffic on our network between 5pm and midnight on weekdays and midday and midnight on weekends. This policy, which applies to all broadband packages, is restricted to Peer to Peer ("P2P") applications and Newsgroups (which are commonly used to distribute large amounts of data)

This policy does not impact any applications other than Peer to Peer and Newsgroups, so things like watching iPlayer, online gaming, making calls via Skype, downloading music tracks from iTunes or streaming them from Spotify and sending an email or normal browsing are unaffected.

It's important to remember that these traffic management policies only apply at peak times when speeds are most likely to be affected by people using more than their fair share. Outside of peak times we do not manage traffic.
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Source: http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management/traffic-management-policy.html

There is a 7 hour management time frame which isn't too bad tbh and gaming etc is unaffected on 50mb unlike on 20mb where all of the bandwidth is monitored and limited.
 
anticonscience said:
I hate people who post mis-informed information.

:mad:

Virgin DO limit P2P, Newsgroups (unless you use SSL port 443) both upstream and downstream at peak times.

The information is clear to see on the Virgin website.
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lol ok find me an isp that does not do this with a speed that vm give?:)
 
GAMING IS AFFECTED (particularly XBOX Live) due to this P2P management, as is PC gaming, read the Virgin forums, there are lots of stories all over the internet on how this is causing issues.

Rift also suffers due to this management.

Virgin are a shambles.

Cr416 said:
lol ok find me an isp that does not do this with a speed that vm give?:)
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What is the point in being with Virgin Media for 50Mb when I cannot use the service to game on my xbox online during peak times?
 
I am not sure, I am hoping that BT Infinity, even though they throttle P2P (torrents) that P2P gaming, eg XBOX Live, is unaffected by the traffic management.

If it still causes the same problems, I am screwed.
 
lol, the point I guess I'm trying to make here is that despite the traffic limitations, if you are on 50mb and you are throttled you are less likely to feel it as much as if you are on a slower speed. Throttling on 50mb will drop you to around 10-20mb or so? (I am unsure of actual throttle limit values) its still not that bad compared to the 20/30mb package if that makes sense.

Apart from the upload limitation also (if you haev the 5mb upload) There is genuinely no other bandwidth limitations on the 50mb service so there is no chance of affecting those.
 
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lol looking at that they are at least trying to do something about it.

Call of Duty: Black Ops XBox Issues
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We've seen that some of you are having issues while playing Call of Duty: Black Ops on the Xbox. We're investigating this at the moment and if you're having these problems could you please post your feedback in this thread.

It would be helpful if you could go to http://tools.virginmedia.com/ on your home PC and then give us these details in that thread.

Client IP:
Client Host Name:
Time Issues Seen
Summary of Issues seen: (also if you're seeing problems with other games, consoles or on the PC)

Thanks

#Mark Wilkin
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Thanks for pointing out my flaws though, I never really looked into the p2p side of things as I tend not to use them.
 
Yes, pretty much all of them do lol. You will be better off going through the 'fair usage' policy sections of ISP websites and see what they say.

I still stand by upgrading to 50mb though.
 
Cr416 said:
Yes, pretty much all of them do lol. You will be better off going through the 'fair usage' policy sections of ISP websites and see what they say.

I still stand by upgrading to 50mb though.
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No they don't! Be* don't cap and neither do Sky on their unlimited services. I've just moved to Sky from Be* today, not once was I capped with Be* and some months I would download over 5/600 gigs worth of porn :p ( got that in before someone else does :eek: )
 
The Deuce said:
No they don't! Be* don't cap and neither do Sky on their unlimited services. I've just moved to Sky from Be* today, not once was I capped with Be* and some months I would download over 5/600 gigs worth of porn :p ( got that in before someone else does :eek: )
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Sky and be don't traffic manage.

Op be mindful your not going to get same kind speeds away from VM. Your going to be moving to a different technology In ADSL which is limited by distance. To exchange and line quality.
 
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