Do you tidy your rubbish at KFC/McD's/BK?

[Swordfish]

Restaurant is a restaurant. They get paid to tidy up. Only time I ever clear my table is if it's really busy.

Although I do clear away my stuff (as I stack empty plates etc in "proper" restaurants) I have to agree with your stance.

If they call themselves restaurants as McDonald's & KFC do (but not BK as far as I can see) then you should not feel guilty about not removing your rubbish to the bin.

 

[ntg]

maybe they are there to make the staffs life easier, rather then having to go back and forwards all the time.
But nobody knows because there are no signs, asking you to place your rubbish in the bin.

Looking at the consensus in this thread it seems that most people acknowledge the bins as being there for that purpose. Since your meal consists of nothing that cannot be discarded, whether you do it or a member of staff it's the same (i.e. no need to take it to a kitchen at the back).

In regards to

a) so the staff at mcdonalds who pick up the rubbish of those who do not place their rubbish in the bin are unpaid volunteers?

b) the food court in lakeside has bins all around for the use of staff, so bins being there does not mean you are expected to cleanup after you.

a) The difference is that (e.g) Nandos' waitress will serve you food and clean your table and take care of you. She is not expected to go and cook your food as well. McD staff are jack's of all trades, they do everything because they have no option. I was highlighting the fact that at Nandos you have people specifically for the job of cleaning your table, plus it's something you cannot do yourself. At McD it's something you can do yourself and they have designated bins for you to do so, plus it doesn't cost/burden you to do so - whereas taking your dishes/glasses/cutlery back to the kitchen at Nando's would be slightly taxing.

b) I'm not familiar with that place. Do you get washable dishes/cutlery? If yes then it's the role of the staff to pick it up. If it's cardboard/wrappers then you could/should do it yourself.

It all depends on how you feel about paying a premium for what you are getting. If you are, there is some justification on expecting a better service, if not - as is the case with fast food - you are expected to do your bit as long as it's not a chore. And it's not a chore is it?

Ditto the nandos example, waitress pick up your plate, but you are not expected to tip, nor is a service charge added.

You will find that Nando's has a service charge for large parties and most staff do expect a tip.

<JOKE> Well apart from taking work away from potential workers. If nobody threw their rubbish away then Mcdonalds would have to hire more staff to clean up. By throwing your rubbish away you as good as taking british job away from british workers <Joke>

I have to point it is unlikely you'll find many British workers in fast food outlets (in my experience)..

 

[DM]

You are paying £5 for the cost of food, the cost of employees, the cost of the premises and various other bits and bobs. Especially if you are sitting down to eat you need to factor in the cost of you hogging their tables/chairs as well.

It is more than likely that your £200 dinner costs only a little more than your McD food as in the actual food ingredients. Given this premium, which you are paying for SERVICE&AMBIENCE (hint:hint), you are not expected to rush to the kitchen and wash up.

Also, the Ronald McDs finest are people like you and me, who work at a crappy job to make ends meet for various reasons, least being that they are too "dumb" to be worthy of anything better (as many people seem to think). The work conditions and pressure at fast food outlets is very high for very little wage and no prospects, with the threat of getting sacked hanging over your head over the smallest incident. If you have a bin within sort walking distance and your food consists of cardboard and wrappers (a.k.a no washing up), the least courteous and decent thing to do is to bin it yourself. It doesn't cost you anything, it's no burden to you and it saves the people who work there a bit of time to serve the next customer faster - who may be yourself next time.

The kind of attitude described in your post is disheartening to say the least. Disheartening, but not surprising.

I can see you are giving this a bit too much thought, but thanks for the compliments, im going to do my best to live up to them in the future.

 

[moss]

I have to point it is unlikely you'll find many British workers in fast food outlets (in my experience)..

Again in my experience, all of the major fast food places around here have pretty much all British workers. The same cant be said for smaller outlets but that's expected.

 

[Red and White]

Mcdonalds is a resturant. Do I clear away my plates when I go to a nice steak house? No, so why should I when I go maccy's, they are both resturants afterall.

Plus it gives the guy who is constantly mopping the floor something useful to do.

this.

plus im not touching that greasy germ festering bin for anything.

 

[NathWraith]

That's disingenuous as yourself must have different expectations depending on how much you pay don't you? You don't suggest that you expect the same level of service and ambience when you pay £10, £100, £500 for a dinner meal at a fast food, local restaurant, fine dinning michellin restaurant, do you?

Or do you expect to be treated exactly the same by the staff at all places? If not, why not? aren't they all "restaurants"?

Stop being pedantic, captain question mark.

 

[Schizo]

yes I do.I get annoyed at people who cba to do so. as for the idiots who sit in the car park, eat their meals, then chuck the rubbish out of the car windows even when the bin is next to the car!

same here.

dosent take a min to tidy up after yourself.

 

[TwsT]

i even put the tray in the bin

 

[Souleh]

Its just lazy not to. Stop expecting other people to tidy up around you for mess you make.

There is no service charge IIRC so do not expect table service.

 

[Deleted member 105233]

Indeed!

 

[Sho]

Yup. I dont like the idea leaving anything behind as i see it this way, Your not gona leave your own rubbish in your living rooom/Bedroom once you have a munch? No?

 

[rG-tom]

interesting note, i gave in to my cravings and got a mcdonalds for dinner. the new deluxe quarter pounder with cheese and bacon went down a treat!

As i stood up to leave, i went to pick up my tray and a lovely assistant said "oh no don't worry I'll get that for you" and took it from the table as i was inches from picking it up.

Can't argue with that.

 

[Lysander]

Yes. Always have, always will.

Restaurant is a restaurant. They get paid to tidy up. Only time I ever clear my table is if it's really busy.

Very snobby attitude. Most of the people who work at McDonald's hate their jobs, I imagine. And you're not willing to make it that little bit easier for them by putting your stuff in the bin by the door which is the direction you're going in anyway.

I used to be the same as you, you know. Never used to tip waiters either except for exceptional service because "they get paid to do their job anyway". Then I realised how many of them disliked their job, how minute their wages were, how long their hours were and how controlling their managers were. From then on I pulled myself out of my posterior and gave them a bit of money each time to make their tepid days a little lighter. If you've ever been in a job you really really hate you'll understand that the kindness of others means everything.

So next time you go to a fast food restaurant, just try putting your own rubbish in the bin - with your ego. Or you could toss it in the street because it gives street cleaners something to do - "it's their job anyway!"

 

[loltim]

yes

 

[ntg]

Yes. Always have, always will.



Very snobby attitude. Most of the people who work at McDonald's hate their jobs, I imagine. And you're not willing to make it that little bit easier for them by putting your stuff in the bin by the door which is the direction you're going in anyway.

I used to be the same as you, you know. Never used to tip waiters either except for exceptional service because "they get paid to do their job anyway". Then I realised how many of them disliked their job, how minute their wages were, how long their hours were and how controlling their managers were. From then on I pulled myself out of my posterior and gave them a bit of money each time to make their tepid days a little lighter. If you've ever been in a job you really really hate you'll understand that the kindness of others means everything.

So next time you go to a fast food restaurant, just try putting your own rubbish in the bin - with your ego. Or you could toss it in the street because it gives street cleaners something to do - "it's their job anyway!"

Oh my! Another fellow pedant! Join the club Lysander.

Let me introduce myself:I'm captain question mark.

 

[Lysander]

Oh my! Another fellow pedant! Join the club Lysander.

Let me introduce myself:I'm captain question mark.

But you know what makes these peoples' jobs really bad? Customers. The customers in these places can be awful. Rude, abusive, demanding - even drunk. McDonald's have to put up with a wide variety of mouthy, classless, insolent idiots. The fewer of them, the better. The choice is yours - put your stuff in the bin which takes what, one or two seconds, or leave it there because you think it's below you. Oh, and by the way Nath, when I next go to a fast food restaurant I don't want to have to clear your crap off my table because the poor buggers on staffing haven't had time to do it yet.

 

[NathWraith]

Yes. Always have, always will.



Very snobby attitude. Most of the people who work at McDonald's hate their jobs, I imagine. And you're not willing to make it that little bit easier for them by putting your stuff in the bin by the door which is the direction you're going in anyway.

I used to be the same as you, you know. Never used to tip waiters either except for exceptional service because "they get paid to do their job anyway". Then I realised how many of them disliked their job, how minute their wages were, how long their hours were and how controlling their managers were. From then on I pulled myself out of my posterior and gave them a bit of money each time to make their tepid days a little lighter. If you've ever been in a job you really really hate you'll understand that the kindness of others means everything.

So next time you go to a fast food restaurant, just try putting your own rubbish in the bin - with your ego. Or you could toss it in the street because it gives street cleaners something to do - "it's their job anyway!"

Oh I'm sorry, it's my fault these choose to make burgers and dsweep tables for a living. Get a grip! Seriously, just because someone doesn't like their job I have to feel guilty for it? They dont have to work there or work at all if it pains them that much.

Oh my! Another fellow pedant! Join the club Lysander.

Let me introduce myself:I'm captain question mark.

You did use a question mark at the end of every sentence.

Hats off to you lysander for being so "charitable" by putting your rubbish in the bin. I for one will not be doing so, as that is what there job entails and they should be doing their job. Your post is fairly laughable when you read it out loud.

 

[loltim]

Mcdonalds is a resturant. Do I clear away my plates when I go to a nice steak house? No, so why should I when I go maccy's, they are both resturants afterall.

Plus it gives the guy who is constantly mopping the floor something useful to do.

that is so annoying to read

it's really not that hard just to put your rubbish in the bin, there doesn't need to be a reason, it's just politeness

 

[DM]

What you all giving him a hard time for, hes made his position clear and the reasons for it, thats that move on.

 

[Lysander]

Oh I'm sorry, it's my fault these choose to make burgers and dsweep tables for a living. Get a grip! Seriously, just because someone doesn't like their job I have to feel guilty for it? They dont have to work there or work at all if it pains them that much.

Wow, get a load of Mr Privileged Upbringing. You just don't have a clue, do you. For some people, it's the only work they can find. And you're not even willing to make their awful jobs slightly better.

Choose to make burgers. Choose? Some people have no choice at getting even marginally skilled work.

Your post is fairly laughable when you read it out loud.

Sorry if this sounds a little tit for tat, but yours is worse, to be honest. You sound quite selfish and unpleasant - just from this, at least.

What you all giving him a hard time for, hes made his position clear and the reasons for it, thats that move on.

His 'reasons' are founded on ignorance, sanctimony and snobbery. That's why.