If you think kids should be well behaved in public...

Lysander said:
It does both. I speak from my own experience, and seeing it used on all the kids at school around me. You've been brainwashed by a modern society that wraps its children in cotton wool.
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I have a lot of friends who studied Early Childhood Development at university, and they would all tell me that hitting kids is an ineffective and unnecessary method for discipline.

You can easily discipline and teach young children right from wrong without hitting them.
 
bhavv said:
I have a lot of friends who studied Early Childhood Development at university, and they would all tell me that hitting kids is an ineffective and unnecessary method for discipline.

You can easily discipline and teach young children right from wrong without hitting them.
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You need a moderation of both IMO. depends on the kid really. Most parents know theor kid and what works with them.
 
I have 5 kids and only ever smacked 1 of them.

Basically for months me and the wife tried everything (loss of privileges, more attention, general, discipline but never smacking him) with our youngest son aged 6 to stop him hitting his little sister aged 1.

Nothing worked. See I have never had a problem with smacking kids as a form of discipline my farther did it to me. Anyways one night me and the wife sat down and I said he needs a smacked arse if he does it again my wife agreed reluctantly. basicly he hit his little sister again. I took him upstairs gave him a smacked arse (away from everyone). Then said to him its not nice when someone bigger than you hits you how do you think your sister feels, don't do it again.

He has not hit his sister since 3 years ago this happened. If anyone ever told me that was abuse I would tell them to &*%% off. Simply put I never lost my temper and was in full control. Never smacked him since.
 
bhavv said:
I have a lot of friends who studied Early Childhood Development at university, and they would all tell me that hitting kids is an ineffective and unnecessary method for discipline.

You can easily discipline and teach young children right from wrong without hitting them.
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Funny how this new school of thought is producing a generation of uncontrollable, weak and undisciplined children.
 
nuttyprot said:
I have 5 kids and only ever smacked 1 of them.

Basically for months me and the wife tried everything (loss of privileges, more attention, general, discipline but never smacking him) with our youngest son aged 6 to stop him hitting his little sister aged 1.

Nothing worked. See I have never had a problem with smacking kids as a form of discipline my farther did it to me. Anyways one night me and the wife sat down and I said he needs a smacked arse if he does it again my wife agreed reluctantly. basicly he hit his little sister again. I took him upstairs gave him a smacked arse (away from everyone). Then said to him its not nice when someone bigger than you hits you how do you think your sister feels, don't do it again.

He has not hit his sister since 3 years ago this happened. If anyone ever told me that was abuse I would tell them to &*%% off. Simply put I never lost my temper and was in full control.
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Actually thats a good way of using hitting kids as an example to stop them beating other kids if all other disciplinary methods have failed.

However, I dont very much agree to whacking a kid across the face for every little thing that a child can do wrong.

UncleRuckus said:
Funny how this new school of thought is producing a generation of uncontrollable, weak and undisciplined children.
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Well two of my friends who studied Childhood Development who have had kids have never hit them, and they are the most lovely well behaved and disciplined children you could ever meet. So I dont agree that their non violence methods dont work, the problem lies with hippie type approaches that not only dont hit their kids, but they dont discipline in any other way either.

Most parents really need to watch more Supernanny.
 
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My kids carry on regardless when their mum shouts and screams at them, I only have to talk quietly, a real low tone, they pay attention problem solved. so they behave for me, on the odd occasion i've had to resort to the hand a light tap wakes them up, no mark no hurt just a tap. their mum is ott and drones about her mum giving epic violence and dragging her by the hair down stairs etc, and lays the threat to my oldest daughter, to which I tell her out of ear shot of the kids, if she ever dose that to any of my children ill take them and she will get arrested. the way she handles things the kids don't respect her, everything has to be a threat, it dose not have to be that way and the kids don't respect her because she dose not respect them and set a good example for them.
 
bhavv said:
Actually thats a good way of using hitting kids as an example to stop them beating other kids if all other disciplinary methods have failed.

However, I dont very much agree to whacking a kid across the face for every little thing that a child can do wrong.



Well two of my friends who studied Childhood Development who have had kids have never hit them, and they are the most lovely well behaved and disciplined children you could ever meet. So I dont agree that their non violence methods dont work, the problem lies with hippie type approaches that not only dont hit their kids, but they dont discipline in any other way either.

Most parents really need to watch more Supernanny.
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Agree fully with you, and +1 for super nanny watch it on regular basis.
 
bhavv said:
Well two of my friends who studied Childhood Development who have had kids have never hit them, and they are the most lovely well behaved and disciplined children you could ever meet. So I dont agree that their non violence methods dont work, the problem lies with hippie type approaches that not only dont hit their kids, but they dont discipline in any other way either.
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Just because they have well behaved kids does not mean they all are susceptible to verbal conditioning. Just like adults children can be naturally spiteful, wicked and well, badly behaved; this is where the smacking come in as it teaches those naught children consequence where verbal reasoning doesn't work.
 
LizardKing said:
I was slapped as a kid, it never did me any harm, but it also had zero affect on me.
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Same..

and I've had it proper as well, being dragged by the hair, dragged by the ears, hit with a walking stick as well as the more normal backside beatings.

Kids are not small adults, they don't work the same way we do.
They need telling in a way they will understand FROM THE BEGINNING.
 
My parent's used to give me an option of what punishment I would receive when I was being a little git or if I did something seriously wrong. Either have something taken away, have the silent treatment or have a slipper across my bare arse :p I always took the slipper option ;) was the easiest to deal with, obviously I didn't tell them that! :p
 
UncleRuckus said:
Just like adults children can be naturally spiteful, wicked and well, badly behaved; this is where the smacking come in as it teaches those naught children consequence where verbal reasoning doesn't work.
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According to the Child experts, no child is responsible for such behavior, it is always the parents fault for not correctly disciplining them in the first place to prevent that behavior from happening.

Or in some cases, the child may not have enough play / fun social interaction with their parents and other kids, so they may not have developed decent social skills.

Being too strict can have the completely opposite effect to what you intend it to have.
 
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nuttyprot said:
Yeh I bet half of them don't have kids.
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Im talking entirely from long previous conversations with my friend who has a kid, a Masters degree in some Childcare course (Undergrad at the uni I went to and a housemate for 2 years), and has worked in a hospital's childrens ward looking after kids in hospital care and providing them with playful activities, and currently works in a nursery where she been for several years, so I think she knows her stuff.
 
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I do think there are some limits to behaviour like that though. I once told a child off for swinging on the swing door to the kitchen in our restaurant and the mother flew off the handle at me.

She didn't want to discipline her child, but was more than happy to let him get hurt by trapping a hand in the hinge or even getting burned in the kitchen!
 
My son knows he has done wrong when I use a "special" tone of voice. He knows its a toss up between naughty step or smack on the hand if he goes too far.
 
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Nicely said and absolutely true. I hate it when people look down their noses at me when my son decides to throw a tantrum.

/nods.
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Problem is, some parents genuinely don't give a crap about the fact that their kid's tantrum is ruining someone's special night out in that expensive restaurant. They'll let them sit there and wail rather than take them outside.

Last time this happened (after 45 mins of screaming), my mate had to threaten to throw the brat out the door himself before they did anything. :mad:
 
"My parents did <x> to me when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm. That's why I intend to also inflict <x> on my kids without really thinking about it!"

Great parenting, right there :rolleyes:
 
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