Who here believes in UFO'S?

Even if the aliens had a ship that could move faster than the speed of light they still would struggle getting here, how would they know this planet is occupied! We have only been sending out radio-waves for less than 100 years so detection of them is extremely unlikely unless they are already in our solar system.
 
If they can summon the technology that masters intersteller spaceflight, it is fair to assume they would have more sophisticated means of detection than radio? Arguements against Alien lifeforms visiting this planet stem from our lack of knowledge and understanding of physics. We have so much more to learn but our ignorance/arrogance prevents us from finding the answers.
 
lol.

Jesting aside I think there are more dodgy abduction reports than there are UFO sightings. Some dodgy UFO sightings can just be mistaken identity. Most (all?) abductions are a simply cry for attention. However, I guess its hard not to assume there have been some abductions if the UFO phenomena is to be believed. Both logically go hand in hand.

Some humans might have have been abducted by Aliens.

I dont think that they ever came back though. There are too many cases of people that mysteriously go missing and are never discovered, it could be aliens!

... Erm, I want an alien smilie please.
 
Do i believe in Unidentified Flying Objects? Yes i do, because they are unidentified and flying, whats mystical about that? Stupid question.

'Look up there, in the sky! Its something, i am not sure what, and it has a definite trajectory, it doesnt like like a bird, or a plane, or superman!!'
'It must be dem aliens!'
 
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It is a universally accepted definition of God as it is the definition that the vast majority go by.

Feel free to drop it whenever you want.

I am reminded of this thread over in SC http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18240813
titled 'Are you willing to give up beliefs when proved wrong?'.

Sadly in bhavvs case here, the answer is no. His axe is too big to grind, the facts are unimportant next to his opinions and all we can safely conclude is that he must be proper alpha or something.
 
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Even if the aliens had a ship that could move faster than the speed of light they still would struggle getting here, how would they know this planet is occupied! We have only been sending out radio-waves for less than 100 years so detection of them is extremely unlikely unless they are already in our solar system.
You say that but they would know we are in an area where life could possibly exist.
 
I am reminded of this thread over in SC http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18240813
titled 'Are you willing to give up beliefs when proved wrong?'.

Sadly in bhavvs case here, the answer is no. His axe is too big to grind, the facts are unimportant next to his opinions and all we can safely conclude is that he must be proper alpha or something.

????? Which belief have I been proven wrong on? What 'FACTS' prove my opinions to be wrong?

I dont believe that there is one single shred of factual reasoning or evidence yet for the idea of a deistic God as defined by many of the worlds religions.

What 'important facts' oppose my ideas that religion and deistic Gods are nothing but a load of hogwash?

Philosophical mumbo jumbo from ignosticism also doesnt qualify as facts.

I am completely willing to believe in 'God':

provided the evidence presented is robust, valid and so on

Until there is such evidence, I do not accept any religious idea or definition of a deistic God.
 
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????? Which belief have I been proven wrong on? What 'FACTS' prove my opinions to be wrong?

I dont believe that there is one single shred of factual reasoning or evidence yet for the idea of a deistic God as defined by many of the worlds religions.

What 'important facts' oppose my ideas that religion and deistic Gods are nothing but a load of hogwash?

Philosophical mumbo jumbo from ignosticism also doesnt qualify as facts.

I am completely willing to believe in 'God':



Until there is such evidence, I do not accept any religious idea or definition of a deistic God.

Rabble rabble rabble. You attempted to define the term 'God' and got served with a counter argument. When did your ideas about 'religion and deistic gods' being 'a load of hogwash' come into this? You made a statement, that statement was shown to be incomplete. But no please, continue to argue your case, its mildly entertaining.
 
????? Which belief have I been proven wrong on? What 'FACTS' prove my opinions to be wrong?

I dont believe that there is one single shred of factual reasoning or evidence yet for the idea of a deistic God as defined by many of the worlds religions.

What 'important facts' oppose my ideas that religion and deistic Gods are nothing but a load of hogwash?

Philosophical mumbo jumbo from ignosticism also doesnt qualify as facts.

I am completely willing to believe in 'God':


Interesting thing you wrote in another thread yesterday:

You can be a free thinker and believe in the idea of God as a Deist IMO,

I find that interesting when compared to what you are saying here.

Also Deism doesn't define God in any specific way, neither do many of the worlds religions define a deistic God either.

If philosophical Mumbo Jumbo as you call it doesn't qualify as facts than it is rational to assume that you consider your own philosophical position of Atheism to be Mumbo Jumbo also.

Anyway, Bunnykillbot (I love than name), was not referring to your philosophical beliefs, but your assertion that there is a universally accepted definition of the concept of God, and even when shown (using your own reference for your erroneous position no less) you still blindly refused to accept that and continued to state your position regardless of evidence to contrary.

Frighteningly similar to those of Blind Faith who you accuse of being irrational and unable to think for themselves.

but you cant be a free thinker and blindly follow whichever religion your parents taught you while you were growing up.

Following blind faith and / or religious authority =/= free thought.


Until there is such evidence, I do not accept any religious idea or definition of a deistic God.


I think you are confused about what you do believe, and your objectivity is clouded by your own issues with reconciling your religious upbringing with your non-theist beliefs.
 
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Of course I belive in UFOs and alien life. It's not a question of if it's here but where.

On another note, why is the word "moth.man" wordfiltered?
 
I think you are confused about what you do believe, and your objectivity is clouded by your own issues with reconciling your religious upbringing with your non-theist beliefs.

LOL arent you just the king of made up BS on these forums, constantly thinking that your silly little opinions of other people must be true in anyway.

And why did you start quoting me again when I wasnt even talking to you? What is your problem with having to respond to everysingle post I make, even if it has absolutely nothing to do with a confused ignostic like you?
 
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LOL arent you just the king of made up BS on these forums, constantly thinking that your silly little opinions of other people must be true in anyway.

It is only a personal opinion, it may well be wide of the mark, but being as your first reaction is to belittle that opinion (which seems to be an automatic defence mechanism for you considering the frequency) rather than refute it in an objective and calm way says more about your state of mind than the veracity of my opinion.
 
It is only a personal opinion, it may well be wide of the mark, but being as your first reaction is to belittle that opinion (which seems to be an automatic defence mechanism for you considering the frequency) rather than refute it in an objective and calm way says more about your state of mind than the veracity of my opinion.

Or maybe I'm simply fed up of you requiring me to refute everysingle thing I say when I have already done so time and time again for you, while all you keep on doing is repeating the same arguments over my same opinions that I have already refuted for you.

belittling you is a reaction after you already personally requested to drop this issue two seperate times, yet you continue to respond to my posts which werent even responding to you.
 
Or maybe I'm simply fed up of you requiring me to refute everysingle thing I say when I have already done so time and time again for you, while all you keep on doing is repeating the same arguments over my same opinions that I have already refuted for you.

:confused:

The idea then would be to stop repeating the same old nonsense and then I would have no reason to refute said nonsense, would I?
 
belittling you is a reaction after you already personally requested to drop this issue two seperate times, yet you continue to respond to my posts which werent even responding to you.

In fact they were directly refuting my opinion, you also attempted to belittle my contribution with your ignosticism is mumbo jumbo crack.

You have not dropped the issue at all, despite my requests. All you have done is to attack my opinion by a more indirect route as it is clear that you arguments are not as robust as you thought and can not stand up to direct scrutiny.
 
In fact they were directly refuting my opinion, you also attempted to belittle my contribution with your ignosticism is mumbo jumbo crack.

Well maybe if you stopped posting your mumbo jumbo nonsense as a means to try and refute my beliefs, I wouldnt need to point out that your weak philosophical arguments do not qualify as facts against my opinions.

We are referring to your opinion of the acceptance of a universal concept of God as well you know, now you are simply trying to divert.

On the first thread, I only stated that I believed in UFOs which was enough for you to divert the topic at hand into that discussion and begin comparing my opinion on apples to my opinion on oranges.

This is not the discussion I intended to have in this thread, you bought that into it.
 
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