lol.
Jesting aside I think there are more dodgy abduction reports than there are UFO sightings. Some dodgy UFO sightings can just be mistaken identity. Most (all?) abductions are a simply cry for attention. However, I guess its hard not to assume there have been some abductions if the UFO phenomena is to be believed. Both logically go hand in hand.
Sorry that is not a universally accepted definition of the concept God, If you bothered to actually read the wiki page:
So now can we drop it and continue on with the debate at hand.
It is a universally accepted definition of God as it is the definition that the vast majority go by.
Feel free to drop it whenever you want.
You say that but they would know we are in an area where life could possibly exist.Even if the aliens had a ship that could move faster than the speed of light they still would struggle getting here, how would they know this planet is occupied! We have only been sending out radio-waves for less than 100 years so detection of them is extremely unlikely unless they are already in our solar system.
I am reminded of this thread over in SC http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18240813
titled 'Are you willing to give up beliefs when proved wrong?'.
Sadly in bhavvs case here, the answer is no. His axe is too big to grind, the facts are unimportant next to his opinions and all we can safely conclude is that he must be proper alpha or something.
provided the evidence presented is robust, valid and so on
????? Which belief have I been proven wrong on? What 'FACTS' prove my opinions to be wrong?
I dont believe that there is one single shred of factual reasoning or evidence yet for the idea of a deistic God as defined by many of the worlds religions.
What 'important facts' oppose my ideas that religion and deistic Gods are nothing but a load of hogwash?
Philosophical mumbo jumbo from ignosticism also doesnt qualify as facts.
I am completely willing to believe in 'God':
Until there is such evidence, I do not accept any religious idea or definition of a deistic God.
????? Which belief have I been proven wrong on? What 'FACTS' prove my opinions to be wrong?
I dont believe that there is one single shred of factual reasoning or evidence yet for the idea of a deistic God as defined by many of the worlds religions.
What 'important facts' oppose my ideas that religion and deistic Gods are nothing but a load of hogwash?
Philosophical mumbo jumbo from ignosticism also doesnt qualify as facts.
I am completely willing to believe in 'God':
You can be a free thinker and believe in the idea of God as a Deist IMO,
but you cant be a free thinker and blindly follow whichever religion your parents taught you while you were growing up.
Following blind faith and / or religious authority =/= free thought.
Until there is such evidence, I do not accept any religious idea or definition of a deistic God.
I think you are confused about what you do believe, and your objectivity is clouded by your own issues with reconciling your religious upbringing with your non-theist beliefs.
LOL arent you just the king of made up BS on these forums, constantly thinking that your silly little opinions of other people must be true in anyway.
It is only a personal opinion, it may well be wide of the mark, but being as your first reaction is to belittle that opinion (which seems to be an automatic defence mechanism for you considering the frequency) rather than refute it in an objective and calm way says more about your state of mind than the veracity of my opinion.
Or maybe I'm simply fed up of you requiring me to refute everysingle thing I say when I have already done so time and time again for you, while all you keep on doing is repeating the same arguments over my same opinions that I have already refuted for you.
The idea then would be to stop repeating the same old nonsense and then I would have no reason to refute said nonsense, would I?
belittling you is a reaction after you already personally requested to drop this issue two seperate times, yet you continue to respond to my posts which werent even responding to you.
What nonsense exactly in this thread? That I wrote that I believe in UFOs?
In fact they were directly refuting my opinion, you also attempted to belittle my contribution with your ignosticism is mumbo jumbo crack.
We are referring to your opinion of the acceptance of a universal concept of God as well you know, now you are simply trying to divert.