Your iPhone is keeping track of you...

Begbie · 20 Apr 2011 at 18:19

Westie said:
Nor me!! Got bigger things to worry about like what fat bird I'm nailing at the weekend!

high five?

Its been a while for me though (well a fattie)

bmi92 · 20 Apr 2011 at 18:22

Westie said:
Nor me!! Got bigger things to worry about like what fat bird I'm nailing at the weekend!

This post inspires me!

Marky · 20 Apr 2011 at 18:24

This is how little I care...

semi-pro waster · 20 Apr 2011 at 18:25

Overslop said:
Could be handy if someone kidnaps me and my family. I, for one, welcome our breadcrumb dropping overlords.

Only really useful if you're returned safe and sound with your iPhone intact to see where the kidnapper took you, otherwise you're still as lost to the authorities as you were before.

I wasn't aware that this happened with iPhones but can't say I'm hugely surprised either. It doesn't make me feel any more inclined to purchase one but in fairness Apple are hardly losing out on much custom or probably much of interest to them by me not taking up their phone.

BennyC · 20 Apr 2011 at 18:58

Cell site mapping is used in court which logs the location, time, masts used at the start, during and finish of the call, duration, length of ring before answer and any forwarding. Along with any texts sent/received and any incoming calls to you.

If you're planning on committing a crime don't use a phone that can be traced back to you

Learnt on my Jury service for those that ask for a source.

Robbo · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:01

Lets ignore the fact that all smartphones (more or less) do this, and focus on the iPhone, as usual.

meghatronic · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:04

AcidHell2 said:
only slightly the file is not transmitted to apple, so apple don't know where you have been.

[citation needed]

Glaucus · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:06

In the article in OP, same said on all other articles, no one has seen it transmit to apple.

meghatronic · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:21

AcidHell2 said:
In the article in OP, same said on all other articles, no one has seen it transmit to apple.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

It could transit to Apple for the handset, or during a background iTunes process. How would something like that be discernible unless you inspected every packet?

Glaucus · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:26

People have dissected it and it is not transmitted. It's not the only article on it.

meghatronic · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:29

AcidHell2 said:
People have dissected it and it is not transmitted. It's not the only article on it.

Cool - links?

(still don't trust Apple

)

Rameses · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:33

Aww I want to see where I've been.

meghatronic · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:33

AmTechFox said:
Aww I want to see where I've been.

Mine is actually great - but it hasn't worked in some countries - e.g., Japan and South Korea.

Glaucus · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:36

meghatronic said:
Cool - links?

(still don't trust Apple )

Nothing specific just google it, apple don't need to be sneaky about it, when you agree to their terms and conditions it allows them to do such things anyway. The problem experts have is not that it is happening, but the fact the file is not encrypted, this can be solved on the computer by just clicking encrypt backups, however can't be solved on the phone.

Glaucus · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:42

Here we go everyone agreed to it.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._us_congressmens_query_about_ios_privacy.html

Bruce Sewell, general counsel for Apple, responded with a letter dated July 12, which explained the basics of the privacy policy revisions. Last month, the company added a new section to its customer privacy policy entitled "Location-Based Services." Users were required to agree to the new terms and conditions before they could download anything from iTunes or the App Store. Sewell said the company did this to ensure that everyone would see the changes.

The update said Apple and its partners could "collect, use and share precise location data, including real-time geographic location" of a device. The information could be supplied anonymously to help Apple's partners and licensees provide better products and services, but a user's personal information is never shared. Users can opt out of the service by visiting oo.apple.com.

In the letter, Sewell said Apple keeps location data for six months to improve its iAd network. After that, the information is aggregated.

Vonhelmet · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:43

meghatronic said:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

It could transit to Apple for the handset, or during a background iTunes process. How would something like that be discernible unless you inspected every packet?

By the same token, how do you know other phones aren't doing it and hiding all the evidence?

Vonhelmet · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:44

AcidHell2 said:
Here we go everyone agreed to it.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._us_congressmens_query_about_ios_privacy.html

Heh. Everyone clicked through a EULA

Seriously, I don't even care.

meghatronic · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:44

vonhelmet said:
By the same token, how do you know other phones aren't doing it and hiding all the evidence?

Telephony companies do it anyway. I'm not exactly bothered!

Glaucus · 20 Apr 2011 at 19:45

vonhelmet said:
By the same token, how do you know other phones aren't doing it and hiding all the evidence?

Exactly we all know what google does with emails and everything else, this is no different and on top of that we also all agreed to it.

Dave M · 20 Apr 2011 at 20:13

Wicksta said:
There are plenty of apps that do this already (at least on Android), the difference with those is that you know they are doing it. But I guess you knew that and you're just trolling.

EDIT: There are now apps available to show where you've been, using this hidden Apple data.

Trolling? Me??

Just pointing out it's a cool feature, I'm not a great fan of apps as the quality is so variable but something built right into iTunes / iOS would be cool.