Confrunted with 2 men in ski masks!

[nanospider]

I had a quick looksee at this blackjack thing, seems the system arms itself if the door opens with the engine still running as well. So if your jacked at the lights or something, just step out and wander off. Can be a bit annoying if you forget but you have a bit of time to re-enter the code before the car starts losing power.

Although, surely any carjacker worth his salt knows of the existence of a blackjack and will see the keypad and ask for the code?

 

[hurfdurf]

Why is it necessary to say this so much?

It's a ridiculous comment in the situation!

Wannabe gangsters are everywhere

Nail on the head really. I very much desperately want to be a gangster yet sadly I do not have the cajones to commit the crimes.

Or I was just pre empting the kids who might rush in and say he should have grabbed his Katana and used secret Aikido techniques you need a special licence to know to kill the intruders.

 

[Fr0dders]

Even if they did know about it how would they know if it was fitted .

Scenario 1

You know of it's existence and go looking for the pad. You can't find it. Is this because A you haven't found it or B it's nit fitted, how do you tell ?

Scenario 2

You find the pad and ask the owner for the code. He gives you it. But you can't tell if the code has worked till you're a few minutes down the road. So you'd have to take the owner with you.

If it was common knowledge, every owner would get kid napped with the car just in case it was fitted. The fact few are kidknapped with the car says its not

 

["andy"]

scenario 3

you get caught red handed because of it so get your mates to go smash the crap out of the guy or his car just because thats the sort of scum you are.

 

[tsinc80697]

So you're basically saying just let them steal the car and then claim off insurance andy?

 

[Slumberbox]

Not everyone lives in Wigan cheets.

Lol harsh I live in Newton which I'd say is slightly worse I think.

 

["andy"]

i really dont know

i think thats what i would be considering though. it doesn't seem like you can win either way.

a tracker and people knowing it has a tracker seems like the best option to me. hopefully they would just move onto the next 'target'. they wont want it tracking when they have it and the people they are selling it too wont want it tracked either. seems risky for them.

id of thought a sneaky device that gets them jail time is probably a good way to upset someone whos not very nice

 

[~Mike~]

A couple of these

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/78407647

 

[Kenai]

id of thought a sneaky device that gets them jail time is probably a good way to upset someone whos not very nice

Indeed, especially if they've taken it off your driveway and thus know where you live

 

[tsinc80697]

a tracker and people knowing it has a tracker seems like the best option to me. hopefully they would just move onto the next 'target'. they wont want it tracking when they have it and the people they are selling it too wont want it tracked either. seems risky for them.

How easy is it to disable a tracker? If it's obvious there is one could they not look for it and rip it out or force you to disable it? I think every way you look at it you lose if someone wants to steal your car.

Ridiuclous to think that but thats the way it seems to me thesedays, if someone wants your car, they will steal it. If they don't get very far they'll either go after someone else or come back for yours again. Can't win really. And I know of people who have had their cars stolen in the middle of the night, they were forced to hand over the keys and then it took months to get anything out of insurance as they didn't want to pay out for a very long time. So either way, the general public get screwed.

 

[PeterNem]

scary truth is most car thefts now come from either robbery or burglary.
try and keep your car keys and spares upstairs

No thanks.

I have insurance for a reason. They can take my car, preferably without coming near my bedroom, and then I'll claim on insurance. Given I pay so much for it, may as well put it to work for me rather than putting my self in harms way.

So you're basically saying just let them steal the car and then claim off insurance andy?

Seems sensible to me.

I'd also avoid having a tracker fitted unless my car really was something irreplaceable. I don't want my car back after it's been joy ridden about by some thieving scum, I'd rather have another one, thanks.

 

[Conanius]

Anyone 'bold' enough to come knocking wearing a ski mask can have whatever they want. Regardless what some might say I'm not risking getting stabed with some rusty heroin addicts shank for something I'm insured for against theft.

 

[Atrox Moris]

How easy is it to disable a tracker? If it's obvious there is one could they not look for it and rip it out or force you to disable it? I think every way you look at it you lose if someone wants to steal your car.

Ridiuclous to think that but thats the way it seems to me thesedays, if someone wants your car, they will steal it. If they don't get very far they'll either go after someone else or come back for yours again. Can't win really. And I know of people who have had their cars stolen in the middle of the night, they were forced to hand over the keys and then it took months to get anything out of insurance as they didn't want to pay out for a very long time. So either way, the general public get screwed.

It's not easy to disable a tracker. It's wired into the electrics. Same with disablers. You'd need to be an automotive spark to remove it. Ripping it out knackers the rest of the electronics. Which is why so many car thieves are breaking and entering to get the keys. It's less hassle to break and enter, grab the keys and leave, than break into the car, disable the alarm, run the risk of knackering the electrics, popping the lock out of the ignition barrel and driving off. And with cars now going for key card entry, the electrics being quite complex and the likes, there are in some cases no barrels to pop and stick a screwdriver in or splice wires together. So it's easier to break into your house.

As for being stuck at traffic... drive with the doors locked. If someone jumps out in front of you and someone starts smashing the side window in, you floor it and run over the person in front of you. They're not going to damage the front window as they need to be able to see out it as well. And if the person in front you've run over damages the windscreen, they'll think twice about jumping out in front of a car again.

I always have the doors locked when I drive through Belfast just incase this happens. Pulling you out of the car at traffic lights is the next most popular method of getting your car next to breaking into your house for the keys. In some cases they've even pulled guns attempting to hijack cars. Replicas or not.

 

[Housey]

I wish someone would steal my RS4, it's worth loads more on insurance

 

[CMOS]

I wish someone would steal my RS4, it's worth loads more on insurance

Where do you live?
I'll assemble a team. By the way my team is allergic to German shepard dogs, so none of them please.

Yea, best bet is install a tracker it's like 200-300 for a years subsciption and i know you can get a system where you can turn off your engine by a remote control. (certain ranges). Again i think the other poster made a good point, if you can slow them down, more chances of you getting you vehicle back.

 

[Dr House]

Yea, best bet is install a tracker it's like 200-300 for a years subsciption and i know you can get a system where you can turn off your engine by a remote control. (certain ranges). Again i think the other poster made a good point, if you can slow them down, more chances of you getting you vehicle back.

There is a new product coming to the market at the end of the year by a small US startup. It will allow you to track your car in real time on your computer or smart phone, give you its speed and allow you to kill the engine.

I think they are aiming at around the 50 to 100 mark per year and only a couple of hundred quid for the device.

 

[Lashout_UK]

I'd wait until they were pulling out of a junction, onto a busy 60mph road, then kill the engine. -halo flickers-

 

[CMOS]

There is a new product coming to the market at the end of the year by a small US startup. It will allow you to track your car in real time on your computer or smart phone, give you its speed and allow you to kill the engine.

I think they are aiming at around the 50 to 100 mark per year and only a couple of hundred quid for the device.

Nice, i know of a system that is available in Pakistan (lol) that basically kills off the engine, the range is probably the point im going to make here it's 500m which isn't bad. It's cheap as hell though over there.

 

[Dr House]

Nice, i know of a system that is available in Pakistan (lol) that basically kills off the engine, the range is probably the point im going to make here it's 500m which isn't bad. It's cheap as hell though over there.

this will will kill the engine via the GSM network so range will not be a issue. You will also be able to SMS the car to kill the engine.

 

[PeterNem]

I'll make my point again. You've got theft cover on your insurance. Why pay someone else to fit a system so that you can have your pride and joy back after it's been thrashed about and abused by a bunch of crooks. Let them have it, take your insurance payout, buy another.