Why does the english working man vote tory ???

I think the issue is, with Labour and Conservative, that both ideologies are flawed. Spend spend spend is not the answer, as isn't cutting all state spending. The best thing to do is to cut what you can, then reallocate state spending to improve the situation for budding companies to come to the UK. For example, the science budget produces 10 pounds for every 1 that it spends in terms of boosting private industry based around it. (I'll find the link in a bit - should really be revising) and I think we have two parties, neither of which understand the ability to spend pragmatically when appropriate, based on outdated ideology from years gone by. It is not correct to spend ridiculous amounts of money, nor is correct to spend the bare minimum and hope things improve by themselves.

There is also the issue for both parties that the Labour vote is starting to bleed dangerously to the BNP in deprived areas, and in other areas the UKIP vote is taking it's toll on Conservative, Lib Dem and actually, Labour seats as well. Even the Greens polled a respectable number of votes - a quarter of a million - which isn't something to scoff at, especially considering such a number could sway the election. I suspect that the populous is getting tired with the current state of affairs and is starting to see through continuous spin and lies from both sides (and you could argue falling into another set of spin and lies) but the fundamental problem is that there are still loyalists who will vote for a party "because my father voted labour, i'm always voting labour" and this kind of person is what is running our country into the ground IMO - democracy can only be maintained if we respect it and use it properly.
 
Now im not english so i cant comment on this question but it really really confuses me why the ordinary working person of england votes tory.
The torys are for the rich, everytime they are in power more pepole are made unemployed and general life standards go down, even a child knows this, so why does the english working man vote for these fools ?

Christ Almighty are you for real?? You sound like some lefty crybaby
 
why would i vote Tory?

now as a scotsman thats a strange concept seeing as we all hate them because of thatcher and the poll tax supposedly.

But no, tbh i think the Conservatives are currently the best option for the country.

brief rundown from my point of view as a Hairy **** Jock who spends his days eating haggis and drinking irnbru

Tories- get my vote. they want to clear the countries debt, put the scroungers off benefits. and generally seem less incompetent than the rest of them

Labour- christ where do i start(see the small labour guide at the bottom of this post) they somehow managed to be utterly imcompetent and ruin this country over the last 12 years. creating non jobs, instilling a political correctness culture in the extreme and generally being everything i despise. ie a person should get a job because they are the best person for it, not because they tick the right boxes in terms of getting the correct number of disable lesbian blacks into certain positions. from where i'm standing they have put the country back 20 years. the unions think its their right to have their public sector members being better treated than their private sector colleauges and these idiots that think we can spend our way out of trouble, jesus how do you budget at home. you dont stick your head in the sand and hope for the best. you cut your cloth accordingly.

Libdems-nothing party to me, most likely as they are too middle of the road in my eyes only good to vote for if you cant decide between the above and want to register a vote. bring nothing to the table from my point of view and have shown their true colours in the last few months

SNP- go on salmond keep banging that bleeding independance drum, it wont work Scotland need the rest of the UK and the rest of the UK whilst to a lesser extent needs Scotland. we would end up a diddy nation and would go backwards in every aspect. one trick ponies that have shown themselves up to be just as incompetent as labour up here, Only popular due to hatred of the tories north of the border and Labour making a complete pigs ear of things consistently. Also if i were to ever meet Alex Salmond i would have a uncontrollable urge to punch him in the face, he just comes across as such a smug git i could never tire of hitting him.

BNP scarily rising in popularity, both north and south of the border. i can see them gainging a much larger following over the next ffew elections because of one simple fact. people dont like to be blamed for their own problems. its easier to say that its not that their lazy that stops them working, its all the immigrants taking the jobs. expect them to capitilize on the worsening state of the county and gain a small holding in the the house of commons over the next few parliments, mainly on the back of idiot voters.

maybe a dictatorship wouldnt be so bad in this country. As previously mentioned perhaps a common sense test could be administered before allowing people the right to vote?



anyway as promised a rather interesting funny i found recently which pretty much sums up my view of the Labour party in this country and any time i have any doubt over voting blue i just look at this and think i dont care if the Tories field a cabbage with a blue ribbon, it keeps those labour muppets out of power


THIS IS LABOUR GOVERNMENT

REST OF THE WORLD VERSION:

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building and improving his house and laying up supplies for the winter.

The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

THE END

------------------------------------------------------------------------

LABOUR GOVERNMENT THE UK VERSION

The squirrel works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.

Come winter, the squirrel is warm and well fed.

A social worker finds the shivering grasshopper, calls a press conference and demands to know why the squirrel should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like the grasshopper, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of the squirrel in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

The British press inform people that they should be ashamed that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so, while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace, Animal Rights and The Grasshopper Council of GB demonstrate in front of the squirrel's house. The BBC, interrupting a cultural festival special from Notting Hill with breaking news, broadcasts a multi-cultural choir singing 'We shall overcome'.

Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor McDonald that the squirrel got rich off the backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the squirrel to make him pay his 'fair share' and increases the charge for squirrels to enter inner London .

In response to pressure from the media, the Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper anti Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The squirrel's taxes are reassessed. He is taken to court and fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as builders for the work he was doing on his home and an additional fine for contempt when he told the court the grasshopper did not want to work. The grasshopper is provided with a council house, financial aid to furnish it and an account with a local taxi firm to ensure he can be socially mobile. The squirrel's food is seized and re distributed to the more needy members of society, in this case the grasshopper.

Without enough money to buy more food, to pay the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, the squirrel has to downsize and start building a new home. The local authority takes over his old home and utilises it as a temporary home for asylum seeking cats who had hijacked a plane to get to Britain as they had to share their country of origin with mice. On arrival they tried to blow up the airport because of Britain 's apparent love of dogs.

The cats had been arrested for the international offence of hijacking and attempted bombing but were immediately released because the police fed them pilchards instead of salmon whilst in custody. Initial moves to return them to their own country were abandoned, because it was feared they would face death by the mice. The cats devise and start a scam to obtain money from people's credit cards.

A Panorama special shows the grasshopper finishing up the last of the squirrel's food, though spring is still months away, while the council house he is in, crumbles around him because he hasn't bothered to maintain the house. He is shown to be taking drugs. Inadequate government funding is blamed for the grasshoppers' drug 'illness'.

The cats seek recompense in the British courts for their treatment since arrival in UK .

The grasshopper gets arrested for stabbing an old dog during a burglary to get money for his drugs habit. He is imprisoned but released immediately because he has been in custody for a few weeks. He is placed in the care of the probation service to monitor and supervise him.. Within a few weeks he has killed a guinea pig in a botched robbery.

A commission of enquiry, that will eventually cost £10,000,000 and state the obvious, is set up. Additional money is put into funding a drug rehabilitation scheme for
grasshoppers and legal aid for lawyers representing asylum seekers is increased. The government praises the asylum-seeking cats for enriching Britain 's multicultural diversity, and dogs are criticised by the government for failing to befriend the cats.

The grasshopper dies of a drug overdose. The usual sections of the press blame it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity and his traumatic experience of prison. They call for the resignation of a government minister.

The cats are paid a million pounds each because their rights were infringed when the government failed to inform them there were mice in the United Kingdom .

The squirrel, the dogs and the victims of the hijacking, the bombing, the burglaries and robberies have to pay an additional percentage on their credit cards to cover losses. Their taxes are increased to pay for law and order, and they are told that they will have to work beyond 65 because of a shortfall in government funds.

THE END
 
I didn't vote Tory this time.

I probably won't next time.

I've been flamed down in the march thread about my political view point, so I'd rather not be dragged in to a tit for tat argument in here. Everyone on here seems to support Tory though :p
 
Foxtrot26 I wanna buy you a pint! That was amazing, so much truth

well the labour explanation i found on sickipedia of all places wtf?

but its spot on in my eyes, my brief rundown is just a quick overview of the inner workings of a strange taxi drivers mind :)


now if only we could somehow fit thatchers balls onto cameron we might have a pm that could sort the country. nonesense like caving into the EU every 5 minutes on some other stupid ruling, being told its against the law not to let prisoners have sky telly but its ok for our pensioners to freeze to death in unheated homes. jesus


as it stands we live in a country where the honest hard working decent person is now a second class citizen.

theres an army of human rights lawyers, social workers, diversity officers and general pillocks in government employment to ensure that those who do not contribute to our society are the best treated individuals in it.

for example, junkies and alkies get extra money in their benefits to allow them to indulge in their addictions, they have an army of people to look after them, addiction workers to stand up in court to tell a brow beaten judge just why he cant jail this poor unfortunate soul for breaking into his hard working neighbours house, they'll also have a social worker to make sure their kids are transported to school by taxi (at our expense) to make sure their kids are fed and clothed as they dont have any money left to do so after squandering their inflated benefits on drugs/drink.
They'll have a social worker on the case to their local housing association demanding that they are housed in a nice new build property as they deserve the best chance to get a fresh start(and new neighbrours to steal from) then when they trash that house they'll either get it repaired for nothing at OUR expense or be rehoused.

theres a horrible benefits culture in this country, its not that people cant afford to work its that people dont want to work, theres a growning number of people that feel that the world owes them and they should be entitled to scrounge of the rest of us and got help us if we think thats unfair as that will no doubt be a breach of their human rights.


compsulory work for all those on benefits. it doesnt matter what they do but they should have to earn their keep.
 
theres a horrible benefits culture in this country, its not that people cant afford to work its that people dont want to work, theres a growning number of people that feel that the world owes them and they should be entitled to scrounge of the rest of us and got help us if we think thats unfair as that will no doubt be a breach of their human rights.

I know a couple of people who I've heard say things along the lines of I've had a hard life/childhood I deserve to get it easy now
While part of me emphasizes with them, the other part of me just thinks **** off, everyone has had difficulties those that do well in life are those that grow stronger from them, and getting a hand out does not make you stronger.


For the record, I'm not really a tory supporter, I'll vote for whoever I feel is best for the country at the time of the election. However I am quite anti-labour. Maybe that stems from growing up in a safe labour seat though
 
I know a couple of people who I've heard say things along the lines of I've had a hard life/childhood I deserve to get it easy now
While part of me emphasizes with them, the other part of me just thinks **** off, everyone has had difficulties those that do well in life are those that grow stronger from them, and getting a hand out does not make you stronger.



very true.

meet these people every day in my line of work. its a case of why shouldnt i screw the system i deserver it because i once worked for 3 months/have an addiction/have kids/am a general dosser

wish they would get over themselves. they havent had a hard life. try working 2 jobs to provide the best for your family or going self employed and putting in 100+ hours a week to try and better yourself- these are the people that seem to always get kicked square in the man bits
 
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