Chiropractors calling themselves 'Dr'

Jeez this thread is as bad as those when people jump up and down about people in IT called Engineers.

Some people have the right to be called Dr.


Get over it.
 
dowie said:
Problems potentially arise if they claim to be able to treat other conditions or offer other medical advice. Some were not exactly helpful during the MMR scare.

Perhaps you should read this too:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/19/controversiesinscience-health
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I don't need to read another Simon Singh article to realise that if anyone regardless of their profession (medical or otherwise) is making claims they cannot justify then they should be investigated.

However it seems that Chiropractors offer a substantiated service in the main so I do not really see a problem with Chiropractics in general. As for the MMR scare plenty of medical professionals also were not exactly helpful either so the example doesn't really mean much.
 
most medical doctors are no such thing as they don't have a PhD - they call themselves dr's out of tradition, but they aren't actually doctors.
 
aardvark said:
most medical doctors are no such thing as they don't have a PhD - they call themselves dr's out of tradition, but they aren't actually doctors.
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They are, they have a degree that conferrs the title "doctor". PhDs, MDs, EdDs (among others) are doctoral level degrees, also conferring the title "doctor". They are different types of doctor, however both degrees grant the title, so they are all doctors.

One thing I will say is that if a paramedic/nurse/radiographer gains a doctoral degree, I doubt they will be allowed to use the title at work as in those situations it is implied that you are a medical doctor, which is an offence under the Medical Act 1983
Medical Act 1983 said:
Penalty for pretending to be registered..
(1)Subject to subsection (2) below, any person who wilfully and falsely pretends to be or takes or uses the name or title of physician, doctor of medicine, licentiate in medicine and surgery, bachelor of medicine, surgeon, general practitioner or apothecary, or any name, title, addition or description implying that he is registered under any provision of this Act, or that he is recognised by law as a physician or surgeon or licentiate in medicine and surgery or a practitioner in medicine or an apothecary, shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale
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Using the title outside of a clinical setting would be fine, however, using it inside one would imply that you are registered under the provisions of the act.
 
brainiac ghost said:
They are, they have a degree that conferrs the title "doctor". PhDs, MDs, EdDs (among others) are doctoral level degrees, also conferring the title "doctor".
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Yes but most medical doctors don't have those - the previous poster was indeed correct.


One thing I will say is that if a paramedic/nurse/radiographer gains a doctoral degree, I doubt they will be allowed to use the title at work as in those situations it is implied that you are a medical doctor, which is an offence under the Medical Act 1983


Using the title outside of a clinical setting would be fine, however, using it inside one would imply that you are registered under the provisions of the act.
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I'm not 100% sure of this but it isn't necessarily correct either - for example I know a lot of Physics PhDs who've gone into medical physics and still use the title 'Dr' while working in their respective hospitals.
 
dowie said:
Yes but most medical doctors don't have those - the previous poster was indeed correct.
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What I'm saying is that MBBS (and other similar degrees) conferr the title doctor, as do PhDs and other doctoral level degrees.




dowie said:
I'm not 100% sure of this but it isn't necessarily correct either - for example I know a lot of Physics PhDs who've gone into medical physics and still use the title 'Dr' while working in their respective hospitals.
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I guess it depends, if you were a nurse or paramedic working in a directly clinical capacity with patients it's different from being someone with a doctorate working as a medical physicist or such as the level of interaction and treatment that you perform is different.
 
brainiac ghost said:
What I'm saying is that MBBS (and other similar degrees) conferr the title doctor, as do PhDs and other doctoral level degrees.
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Sorry to be pedantic but MBBS itself doesn't confer the Dr title - only a doctoral level degree does. Medical doctors use a courtesy title - they're entitled to do so when gaining their degree and being registered with the GMC. Simply holding the MBBS itself doesn't technically entitle someone to use the title.
 
aardvark said:
most medical doctors are no such thing as they don't have a PhD - they call themselves dr's out of tradition, but they aren't actually doctors.
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Which is also partly why surgeons drop the Dr title, unless they do a PhD when they can then call themselves Dr again.
 
D.P. said:
Which is also partly why surgeons drop the Dr title, unless they do a PhD when they can then call themselves Dr again.
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yep.

i have had several medical doctors ask me why i am a doctor and when i tell them i have a PhD they always say 'oh, your a real doctor then!'
 
bored so drudging up this old thread (clear up some misconceptions)

1. As far as I know the UK Schools you only receive your masters in chiropractic and yes I would agree; using the title doctor with a masters is wrong.

2. Most schools outside the UK you get a doctorate and many chiropractors in the UK are from schools outside the UK.

3. The licensing board GCC; states if you call yourself a doctor; it must state 'doctor of chiropractic' or I would assume talking to someone they would need to know you are not a medical doctor but a chiropractor (when using the Dr. title).

3b. example - In the states you do not need to make this specification because more then just 'GPs' are valued as doctors. And chiropractors are also gatekeepers just like medical doctors; meaning primary care providers - (patients can go see them first for issues and then expect a referral if need be).

4. While I can understand; to a degree, people's negative perceptions to chiropractors or misconceptions - some chiropractors bring it upon themselves. But then the above is often relayed by people from lack of understanding about chiropractic themselves.

4b. And like any 'alternative' medicine the ability of the practitioner comes into play when helping with an issue (meaning some chiropractors may not be able to help with things other chiropractors can and then a general judgement is made about the profession).
 
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