NATO air strike possibly kills Gaddafi's son

Amp34 said:
There was little ambiguity in the resolution, however we have now stepped over the bounds of the resolution and decided it's too restricting...
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There is, and that is how we've mission creeped so far... by claiming through the wording it does allow for all out strikes, assassination supplies and training.

There would seem to be a growing number of the legal proffesion here who believe otherwise but does it really matter anymore?

It doesn't stop anyone does it.
 
UncleRuckus said:
You guys know that the rebel leader has been living in the USA for the last 20 years right?

This whole thing stinks of Ops.

I was going to post up this link..

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/2...der-spent.html , but it looks like they've removed the page. I wonder why!
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There's lots of evidence supporting the idea that the CIA are behind these minor 'uprisings'.

It's the old 'problem, reaction, solution' method in action. The CIA create the problem by inciting chaos and the controlled media talk about genocide etc, the international community react like sheep demanding action to protect civilians and US led NATO get to go in and overthrow the regime under the pretext of a humanitarian mission.

Here's a story from 2007:
Bush sanctions 'black ops' against Iran

President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert "black" operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed.

Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilise, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs.
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Libya/Syria etc would be a piece of cake compared to Iran.
 
UncleRuckus said:
You guys know that the rebel leader has been living in the USA for the last 20 years right?

This whole thing stinks of Ops.

I was going to post up this link..

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/03/26/2136063/new-libyan-rebel-leader-spent.html , but it looks like they've removed the page. I wonder why!
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Theres also been quite a few sources stating that numbers of agents have been planted within the rebels to rile them up and encourage them to carry out various objectives.
 
odd no-one seems to be mentioning the building has a command bunker underneath it, this was mentioned by the journalists taken to the site in earlier reports.
 
mmj_uk said:
There's lots of evidence supporting the idea that the CIA are behind these minor 'uprisings'.
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It would be nice to think that all the actors that had to come together and all the actions that had to take place for these various revolutions to occur were all coordinated. The reality is that is a bit far fetched.

I've not doubt that the west is rather glad people have risen up against Gaddaffi and no doubt that western intelligence agencies are supporting the uprising - but to say that they are behind them would indicate they were meticulously planned and is a bit of a leap given the sporadic nature in which they've occurred.
 
angry mobs have targeted diplomatic buildings etc as you can expect...

We are aware of reports that the British Residence in Tripoli has been destroyed, and are currently investigating them. We believe that other foreign residences have been attacked as well," a spokeswoman for the UK's Foreign Office said.

"Such actions, if confirmed, would be deplorable as the Gaddafi regime has a duty to protect diplomatic missions. This would be yet another breach of Gaddafi's international obligations."
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lol they expect him to protect diplomats etc when nato is targeting his family... almost makes me want to face palm.

its nato stirring up the hornets nest not gaddafi they should never have a chosen a side they should have sought to stop all fighting not encourage it
 
arknor said:
angry mobs have targeted diplomatic buildings etc as you can expect...



lol they expect him to protect diplomats etc when nato is targeting his family... almost makes me want to face palm.

its nato stirring up the hornets nest not gaddafi they should never have a chosen a side they should have sought to stop all fighting not encourage it
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To be fair if Gaddafi had followed international law he probably wouldn't be in the position he is in today. At the same time two wrongs don't make a right either.
 
albert said:
Makes me ashamed to be English when exactly the same thing is happening in Syria and yet we are turning a blind eye. Why oh why we pick and choose who we liberate is beyond a joke.....
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...and what exactly have you contributed to the situation in Syria other than self righteous outrage? Feel free to book a flight and go support your chosen faction or are you happier letting other British citizens in the armed forces die doing it for you whilst you sit warm and safe claiming to be "ashamed", posting on an internet forum?
 
Athanor said:
...and what exactly have you contributed to the situation in Syria other than self righteous outrage? Feel free to book a flight and go support your chosen faction or are you happier letting other British citizens in the armed forces die doing it for you whilst you sit warm and safe claiming to be "ashamed", posting on an internet forum?
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.... because we can 'legally' bomb and kill people in Libya yet the regime in Syria is using live ammo on it's people and nothing gets done - so why aren't we bombing Syria? Picking and choosing who we bomb is not right? No-body in the world had a mass vote and voted the UK to be part of the Worlds Police Force.

..BTW - i typed this slowly in-case you case you can't read very fast , cos whats happening is not right and is slowly bordering on being illegal
 
albert said:
.... because we can 'legally' bomb and kill people in Libya yet the regime in Syria is using live ammo on it's people and nothing gets done - so why aren't we bombing Syria? Picking and choosing who we bomb is not right? No-body in the world had a mass vote and voted the UK to be part of the Worlds Police Force.

..BTW - i typed this slowly in-case you case you can't read very fast , cos whats happening is not right and is slowly bordering on being illegal
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Look at a map, you will understand.
 
arknor said:
yea i can see china starting to sell of its 1 trillion + worth of us treasury bills if america makes them angry enough though.

i wonder if americas economy could handle it
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which would cripple the Chinese economy.

considering the Chinese have been investing that huge amount of money to keep the dollar high relative to the yuan so the Americans keep importing their stuff.

iirc there was even a big dispute that the Americans or some other country what china to revalue the yuan because they've been keeping it artificially low to encourage exports.


Short of invading Hong Kong there's not much the Americans can do to make the Chinese make a suicide pact with them.
 
albert said:
.... because we can 'legally' bomb and kill people in Libya yet the regime in Syria is using live ammo on it's people and nothing gets done - so why aren't we bombing Syria? Picking and choosing who we bomb is not right? No-body in the world had a mass vote and voted the UK to be part of the Worlds Police Force.

..BTW - i typed this slowly in-case you case you can't read very fast , cos whats happening is not right and is slowly bordering on being illegal
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International politics is the last bastion of anarchy.

If you've got the strength and the will to do something without others forcing you to stop you pretty much can do whatever you like.

No country wants an economic or military war with the US.

Same reason we let the Chinese **** the Tibetans over and the Russians **** with the Chechens.
 
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