Osama bin Laden is dead - no graphic/violent images.

Deific · 2 May 2011 at 08:42

Loki said:
Your rhetoric aside for one minute, people are fully aware of the collateral damage that the forces of the 'Free World' have made. You have to get this into context though. 9/11 was very real for the people of New York and America so for them this is a moral victory.

Judging from my previous posts you can probably work out what I want to say in reply to this.

But I wont.

Beerbaron · 2 May 2011 at 08:43

NightSt@lk3r said:
Yes because Al-Qaeda are not going to retaliate...

America have just started a **** storm.

he is quoting from counter strike!

[TW]Sponge · 2 May 2011 at 08:44

Loki said:
Your rhetoric aside for one minute, people are fully aware of the collateral damage that the forces of the 'Free World' have made. You have to get this into context though. 9/11 was very real for the people of New York and America so for them this is a moral victory.

Well said.

TJM · 2 May 2011 at 08:44

Agreed, this won't change anything. The Al Qaeda 'core' dissolved itself in the weeks before and after 9/11 in anticipation of the American reaction. The group (and I'm using that word in the loosest sense) won't be seriously affected, beyond feeling a bit sad

Freakbro · 2 May 2011 at 08:46

Deific said:
The point is simple. People cheering and hailing it as progress. I think they're idiots. I'll go one further and bait the probability of tin-foil hat heckles aimed at me and say, I don't just think these people are idiots, but vegetables and sheep who can't see past their noses in terms of goverment fuelled media propaganda.

Go ahead, say it, I know you want to.

I agree with you.

To see the crowds of americans all cheering, whooping and chanting "USA" is the same image we get shown of many crowds across the middle east, chanting over the success of some kill from our side - but then they get reported in a negative context, what savages they are etc

Its just the subtle influence of the way things are reported that changes peoples opinion/perspective so easily. On the news this morning, they spoke about how Bin Laden lived in "the lap of luxury" while his fighters where out roughing it in the field of conflict.....well, err....where do our political and military leaders live while our troops are out having a hard time. :confused:

stulid · 2 May 2011 at 08:46

Pakistan Government getting a ribbing on Sky news.

Vonhelmet · 2 May 2011 at 08:46

Shame they couldn't take him alive. He's just one more great martyr now.

Zip · 2 May 2011 at 08:47

NightSt@lk3r said:
Yes because Al-Qaeda are not going to retaliate...

America have just started a **** storm.

They probably have but it might bring a few more out of the woodwork that will be taken out.
The commanders over there have been getting hammered lately.
It could be a good way to bring others out of hiding.

Toekiller · 2 May 2011 at 08:47

Live tweet of attack...

http://mobile.twitter.com/ReallyVirtual

n111ck · 2 May 2011 at 08:49

NightSt@lk3r said:
Yes because Al-Qaeda are not going to retaliate...

America have just started a **** storm.

So we should be scared to retaliate against criminals and terrorists?

Bin Laden should have been stuffed and put in a museum as a testament to how pointless Al Q 'aims' are.

NightSt@lk3r · 2 May 2011 at 08:51

n111ck said:
So we should be scared to retaliate against criminals and terrorists?

Not at all, but to hail this as some huge Victory for America is moronic, Bin Laden got exactly what HE wanted.

Castiel · 2 May 2011 at 08:52

Ahleckz said:
I appreciate that - But it just seems a great risk to take with relations with Pakistan. Like I said - I'm more concerned and interested with how it'll play out in the international political arena as oppose to just jubilant celebration that someone has died. What's your opinion on the ramification's of his death?

I think that as soon as al-Qaeda have the opportunity they will launch retaliatory attacks on Western targets.

The death of Bin Laden is largely symbolic rather than having any real impact on the operational ability of al-Qaeda or it's affiliates.

While his death is obviously a victory of sorts, it can also act as a catalyst for further attacks against US/Western military infrastructure and civilian targets, as people have been saying, we should be more vigilant, not less at least in the short term.

Conversely it may give CT forces the opportunity to identify further key members of al Qaeda as they begin to mobilise. Forewarned is forearmed so to speak.

Cosimo · 2 May 2011 at 08:53

What fantastic news. Time to celebrate the death of that evil spawn of the devil. He'll be roasting in the fires of hell now. Good riddance.

Ahleckz · 2 May 2011 at 08:54

stulid said:
Pakistan Government getting a ribbing on Sky news.

What was being said?

Alan! · 2 May 2011 at 08:55

So they finally kill him, capture his dead body and then dump it in an ocean? :confused:

Theophany · 2 May 2011 at 08:56

NightSt@lk3r said:
Yes because Al-Qaeda are not going to retaliate...

America have just started a **** storm.

Well obv, there's another few rounds to play before the map resets. :rolleyes:

Locky · 2 May 2011 at 08:57

Zip · 2 May 2011 at 08:58

Alan! said:
So they finally kill him, capture his dead body and then dump it in an ocean?

Its so his burial site can't be used as a memorial or monument they said down here

Random Guy · 2 May 2011 at 08:58

deleted said:
A crappy situation made worse, nice to know he's finally dead but ultimately it means nothing with the war on al-qaeda, theres still millions more of them around the world

Can I have some of that opium you are smoking? Millions? Where did you get that figure from?

This is good news to be sure. I guess that means the US can now withdraw from Afghanistan - mission accomplished right?

Grimley · 2 May 2011 at 08:59

naffa said:
In the short term, yes, undoubtedly. However, this will hurt Al-Qaeda more than us, in the long term.

I hope so.