Adblocker plus is theft
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Well you've been using the wrong Adblocker(s) then if it was any amount of hassle because Adblock Plus is anything but.
Install ABP > Add Easylist Subscription > ???Profit
Sky might kick you off if you do 1tb and I can imagine they have heavy p2p throttling as well.
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What? I think I understand where you're coming from, I just said I don't necessarily agree.I've explained myself three different ways, not sure how many others I can try.
I know, but leaving aside the fact of their 'intentions' influence the actual procedure of the internet probably as much as ads put there by the site-owner influence you, I meant that their statements did not reflect on 'freedom of information' in the universal sense that is often mentioned.
Maybe, but they are the only provider I know that has no 'fair usage' policy so a TB download in a month (unless you mean 1 TB bandwidth
) doesn't seem to be 'taking the ****' to me although it may differ in practice.
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I was thinking about this as I scanned through the thread. If, for the sake of argument, you're partially sighted and so use a text only browser - lynx, for example - which strips out all of the advertising as a by-product. Would it be fair to view such a person as a thief? For years I used text-only browsing on my Windows Mobile smart phones as it was the only way to access a lot of content - the browser would choke up when trying to parse the huge images, flash and other "enhanced content".
I don't have a problem with advertisement as long as it isn't overbearing; I assume most people hold this opinion?
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I don't really agree with it myself. There are times when I wish I had adblocker on again, but it really is damaging in the long term to the structure of the internet we have in place at the moment.
Sites depend on revenue, or even just impressions. Cutting it out removes the revenue source and ultimately this is never going to end well.
Sites depend on revenue, or even just impressions. Cutting it out removes the revenue source and ultimately this is never going to end well.
I'd rather have the internet back as it was in the mid-late 90's. People put information on the web to share and boost discussion... it wasn't dominated by everyone trying to make money in any way possible.
But that's never going to happen, and quite the opposite will happen if the small end people (ie the interesting places) end up not being able to afford costs due to people blocking all ads.
Big companies like OCUK don't worry because they are selling tangible items etc.
I'm still curious how the small end people can't afford around £20 per month for hosting, and yet can spend way over that on sky+ or whatever.
The internet keeps coming down in price, and bandwidth is dirt cheap - there's no real problem with costs and even back in the day there was plenty of interesting content.
It's always the big 'threat' that a lack of adverts will kill off the 'little man' but I suspect that is mostly being put forward by those making lots of money from adverts.
There is ALWAYS somewhere you can get the show ad-free, even if it is the DVD boxset later. Advertising banners in shows alienates viewers, they know this, so when they go bust we can watch everything free on BBC, paid for on Sky, or whatever it will be. Sky won't risk all its subscribers by bannering all their ads.
Anything you do these days some advertising firm will come up with a way to exploit it for commercial marketing, I have the ultimate decision whether I act on that and I have the right to block that content I feel is not appropriate to me.
If you are a small content provider there are plenty of places that will allow you to show your content for free, blogpages, youtube etc etc if you want to run your own website and have your own services to promote yourself as a broadcaster, that is an investment, not a profitable enterprise, put your money into becoming successful dont thrust your adverts down my throat while I spread word of your services. I am advertising YOU for free. Once you become successful, then you can charge subscription for your excellent content, if it isn't good enough for subscription, then improve it.
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This is why I didn't name the person so we could discuss the issue not the personality.
Apparently thumbing up and down doesn't affect their income though so we can stop doing that without feeling bad
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[Cas];19043514 said:
There is nothing more annoying than moving your mouse late at night and a flash animation popping up to sell me floor cleaner and blasting out the merits of its use in your mop bucket.
The other thing with adblocker is, you can whitelist sites you go to that you think might show you appropriate content, for example I whitelisted Zam for banner ads and still block their flash ads. The banner ads are generally games an dMMO's and the flash ads are generally something I will have no interest in.
You call it theft, I call it common sense
Of course anybody with a grain of common sense is going to be blocking all that garbage.. its not just the popup junk, its the stuff embedded in the advertisements themselves (dll's, virus', etc)
Maybe the advertisers that are actually hosting that junk should pull out their fingers and do more than just sit there and take the money but actually screen the content they are hosting as well
if it wasn't free already, I'd happily pay for noscript anyday of the week.
p.p.s I would highly recomend noscript for firefox users (most of you guys probably have it already) because you'd be pretty suprised the amount of junk running in the background of even "trusted" sites
Don't use it standalone mind you want at a very minimum adblock alongside it... and of course standard malware/spyware/virus scanners to run at the end of the day
Of course anybody with a grain of common sense is going to be blocking all that garbage.. its not just the popup junk, its the stuff embedded in the advertisements themselves (dll's, virus', etc)
Maybe the advertisers that are actually hosting that junk should pull out their fingers and do more than just sit there and take the money but actually screen the content they are hosting as well
if it wasn't free already, I'd happily pay for noscript anyday of the week.
p.p.s I would highly recomend noscript for firefox users (most of you guys probably have it already) because you'd be pretty suprised the amount of junk running in the background of even "trusted" sites
Don't use it standalone mind
you want at a very minimum adblock alongside it... and of course standard malware/spyware/virus scanners to run at the end of the day
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Alternatively, stop browsing dodgy pr0n sites
Seriously, if you need a whitelist to not get viruses, you are visiting some very weird sites.
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[Cas];19043514 said:
I think this is one of the main reasons AdBlock and the like have such uptake, no one really minded when adverts just used to be unintrusive jpeg banners that were formatted around the site.
When consistent formatting was disregarded to squeeze in as many adverts as possible, gif and flash banners proliferated, and then flash adverts that start playing videos, making noises, popping out all over the place and taking up the whole page, and frankly not working that well, leaving some people struggling to see how to get rid of the thing, it was this ludicrous progression of online advertising that just spurred on AdBlock's success, so people could browse a website and not just a giant advert with content fitted around the ads.
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I block adverts/scripts/trackers on websites and I fast forward through the adverts on TV, suck on that
Question for anyone, are you also blocking "Google Analytics" on this very site ?
No, why not ?
Question for anyone, are you also blocking "Google Analytics" on this very site ?
No, why not ?
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Google analytics is an extremely useful tool that allows the webmaster to gather user data heuristics to monitor growth and improve the end-user experience of the site. For instance, if the data shows 5% of users are trying to access the website using a mobile platform maybe we should think about serving a customer mobile friendly page. Its not about tracking you, its about seeing how users use your site. Why on earth would you block it?
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Yea and it was blocking lots of stuff and i had to make a site exempt every day...
I guess i'll give it another try then