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Stereoscopic 3D and my 6870

I get defensive when your telling me what i have already said & as if i refuted it in the first place when i did not.
The only error is that there is not a universal 3D glasses available for ATI ATM.

Aye, exactly.

My point was that at the moment there doesn't seem to be any way of using an AMD card to run stereoscopic 3D content using one of the "dumb" non-synchronising 120Hz monitors (like all the ones listed here).

You missed it.
 
Yes I agree with that assessment - I just wanted to write it out clearly so when the OP comes back to read it he understands that the standard 120Hz monitors (without any built-in shutter glasses syncing) which work with Nvidia 3D Vision can not currently be made to work with AMD graphics cards in stereoscopic 3D.
 
I get defensive when your telling me what i have already said & as if i refuted it in the first place when i did not.

The problem is in your initial post you stated, and I'll quote;

Originally Posted by Final8y
AMD can use the same monitors as NV & there are better quality glasses available than what's on the NV proprietary system.

The above quote came across to me (as I'm sure it did to other readers) that Nvidias 3D vision is inferior to AMDs HD3D, you also state that any monitor can be used, even though you're not sure yourself!
I'm sorry but you seemed extremely quick to jump to AMDs defense but now it's blatantly obvious you don't appear to have the facts to back your statements up.

The problem with this is the OP needs the correct facts to get 3D up and running using AMD kit.
If he'd had taken your advice he possibly could have been considerably out of pocket, especially had he purchased a £250+ 120Hz monitor that wasn't compatible with HD3D!

I wasn't having a go in my previous posts, I just like to give people the right advice, that is all :)
 
The problem is in your initial post you stated, and I'll quote;



The above quote came across to me (as I'm sure it did to other readers) that Nvidias 3D vision is inferior to AMDs HD3D, you also state that any monitor can be used, even though you're not sure yourself!
I'm sorry but you seemed extremely quick to jump to AMDs defense but now it's blatantly obvious you don't appear to have the facts to back your statements up.

The problem with this is the OP needs the correct facts to get 3D up and running using AMD kit.
If he'd had taken your advice he possibly could have been considerably out of pocket, especially had he purchased a £250+ 120Hz monitor that wasn't compatible with HD3D!

I wasn't having a go in my previous posts, I just like to give people the right advice, that is all :)

I had already edited my first post about NV solution being less hassle & everyone already knows that & everyone already knows that AMD 3D solution is not superior to NVs so i would not even try to suggest that & you should no better to even think that, the point is that if you use NVs solution then you can only use those glasses & there are better glasses than NVs & the better glasses are not from AMD so no it was not jumping to AMD defence because even if there was not any AMD 3d solution at all the comment about there are better glasses available would still stand.

Very unlikely seeing as there are contradicting posts in this thread one person yes the other says no so you wait for or get some kind of confirmation.

I so said that i was remembering what a user on XS said. i also said that i don't use it myself.
And seeing as the XS user was using both NV 3D & AMD 3D on the same monitor its understandable i thought that they could all use the same monitors seeing as the monitor that is AMD 3D compatible can still be used with NV3D but not necessarily the other way round .


And no you don't always try to give people the right advice & that is my opinion.
Even though rare I'm not infallible to being in error at times on some aspects .
 
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Yes I agree with that assessment - I just wanted to write it out clearly so when the OP comes back to read it he understands that the standard 120Hz monitors (without any built-in shutter glasses syncing) which work with Nvidia 3D Vision can not currently be made to work with AMD graphics cards in stereoscopic 3D.

It could be that the AMD 3D compatible monitors are using the same tech as 3DTvs ?
 
Hi there,

Unfortunately at the moment AMD's approach to 3D is nowhere near as good as Nvidia's for consumers - what they have done is gone for a more open approach where they let third party companies sort out the 3D drivers and hardware, compared to nvidia where everything is in-house and proprietary. This may sound bad for nvidia - but it means that the complex systems all work together well and the drivers are updated and tested regularly - also the choice of 3D monitors is rather broad. For AMD 3D monitors you have a very small selection or chose a 3D TV (which are still very expensive and HDMI 1.4 only supports 3D at 1080P@24Hz or 720p@60Hz).


Therefore, if you definitely want to do 3D gaming then I would sell your 6870s and buy a high end Nvidia card (like this GTX 480), this nvidia 3D kit and this monitor.

This is good advice
 
everyone already knows that & everyone already knows that AMD 3D solution is not superior to NVs so i would not even try to suggest that & you should no better to even think that.

Evidently people don't know that though, hence we have threads like these. Not everybody is as well informed as your good self.

And no you don't always try to give people the right advice & that is my opinion.

Oh really? Well if you can find some bad advice that I've posted please let me know, I'll be only too happy to edit the errors of my way :)

Even though rare I'm not infallible to being in error at times on some aspects .

At least you've recognised that in this case you've got it wrong :p however I've noticed you still haven't edited your initial post which states:

AMD can use the same monitors as NV.

;)
 
Evidently people don't know that though, hence we have threads like these. Not everybody is as well informed as your good self.



Oh really? Well if you can find some bad advice that I've posted please let me know, I'll be only too happy to edit the errors of my way :)



At least you've recognised that in this case you've got it wrong :p however I've noticed you still haven't edited your initial post which states:



;)

The OP was asking what was needed & what can be used & not what solution was superior so to each other so this is not one of those thread as i would not be commenting on such an aspect if the OP was asking.

Don't play dumb with me.

The comment will be edited when i get around to editing it but that still leaves the quotes anyway.
 
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The OP was asking what was needed & what can be used & not what solution was superior so to each other so this in not one of those thread as i would not be commenting on such an aspect if the OP was asking.

Don't play dumb with me.

The comment will be edited when i get around to editing it.

Calm down dear, it's only a graphics card forum, no need to be so aggressive :)

BTW off topic I know, but can you also edit this post as there appears to be a serious lack of grammar going on, a few commas wouldn't go amiss.

Seriously, I'm actually struggling to understand what you've posted it doesn't really make sense. Perhaps this is just your rage showing through in the post?
 
Calm down dear, it's only a graphics card forum, no need to be so aggressive :)

BTW off topic I know, but can you also edit this post as there appears to be a serious lack of grammar going on, a few commas wouldn't go amiss.

Seriously, I'm actually struggling to understand what you've posted it doesn't really make sense. Perhaps this is just your rage showing through in the post?

There was nothing aggressive in that comment.

My grammar is always bad as even grammar police don't bother even trying with me & i don't get upset on the net as there is no point as its solves nothing.
 
There was nothing aggressive in that comment.

My grammar is always bad as even grammar police don't bother even trying with me & i don't get upset on the net as there is no point as its solves nothing.

Ok, fair enough we'll leave it at that then :)
 
Ok, fair enough we'll leave it at that then :)

And your last few comments is a perfect example of the Don't play dumb with me. when you claim to only try to give good advice when your motives are the contrary at times.

We will leave it there.
 
And your last few comments is a perfect example of the Don't play dumb with me. when you claim to only try to give good advice when your motives are the contrary at times.

We will leave it there.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to imply there, you want to give me a clue :confused:
 
To reply to original poster, TBH if you want 3d Go nvidia!
It is plug in and play and the driver support is a lot better than AMD.
There to much "not sure if that will work etc" with AMD route.
There is nothing wrong at all with nvidias glasses, there light comfy and rechargable.
To enable AMD 3d you need 3 party drivers from DDD or Z something or other and the game support can be dodgy, you will get no support from AMD either.
SO either wait for AMD to have a better soloution or get nvidas one
 
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