Poll: F.P.T.P or A.V.. This Thursday
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The only people I know voting yes are those that are either at Uni or just finished it. Is it the "in" thing along with voting Lib Dem?
My polling station was quiet but I did go just after 9am whilst out doing other things.
Yeah, a pretty big one too. Most people I know are voting Yes, but there's been a healthy debate for the last few weeks and there are a fair few FTFP supporters too.
Cambridge has been a Lib Dem stronghold for a while, so it isn't really the "in thing". But AV definitely is.
Well that's a good thing, as this group is extremely more likely to vote Yes. Then again most voters will be out at work during the day. There was a bunch of yes folk canvassing outside of Holborn tube today.
Not enough to outweigh the growing legions of pensioners with nothing better to do though
It does seem pretty stupid that they don't hold elections on a weekend or bank holiday really or even 'shocker' say Friday and Saturday, I'm sure turnout would improve but there we go.
Gotta love the Blunkett admission of blatant lying by the No campaign too - bit late fella - but then again this is David Blunkett (campaigning for the No vote) who said when shooting down PR:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/28/parliament-reform-a-new-politics
It does seem pretty stupid that they don't hold elections on a weekend or bank holiday really or even 'shocker' say Friday and Saturday, I'm sure turnout would improve but there we go.
Gotta love the Blunkett admission of blatant lying by the No campaign too - bit late fella - but then again this is David Blunkett (campaigning for the No vote) who said when shooting down PR:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/28/parliament-reform-a-new-politics
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It's the same scale, bending truths. 250 is the value if we purchased electronic counting equipment.
on the other side it gets rid of tactical voting and requires 50% neither is true.
As I said before, these aren't official groups, just a group of people with similar opinions. Both groups need fining at the minimum, this campaign was a complete shambles and embarrassment. Companies couldn't get away with this if advertising a product, how have they got rid of this when it involves our democracy.
on the other side it gets rid of tactical voting and requires 50% neither is true.
As I said before, these aren't official groups, just a group of people with similar opinions. Both groups need fining at the minimum, this campaign was a complete shambles and embarrassment. Companies couldn't get away with this if advertising a product, how have they got rid of this when it involves our democracy.
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Yes, but if AV comes in, will they really deny soldiers bullet-proof vests? "Yeah, sorry mate, Barry got the last one, damn AV."
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I'm pretty sure there was nothing on the scale of gems like these:
Lying &^%$s
Maybe if we hadn't bankrupted ourselves in a pointless war anyway he wouldn't need a bulletproof vest?
/can of worms.
There was no one there when I handed in my postal vote today. I think that it will heavily benefit the yes vote because people who don't want AV will simply not vote, whereas the people who want it will, as you say.
That article seems to miss the fact that eliminating the undesireable party is more important than your own party getting in.
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I think that's possibly the worst article I've seen regarding a 'flaw' of AV, did you even read beyond the headline?
Did you? Because the article wasn't arguing that AV was flawed just that it wasn't immune to tactical voting despite the yes to AV literature saying it is. Which seems quite relevant in the current debate about lies from both sides of the argument.
To be honest I think both campaigns have been pretty appalling with little in the way of real information being given. If nothing else this has certainly highlighted a flaw with referendums regardless of who eventually wins.
Other way round I reckon - all the OAPs who 'stick with what they know' on just about, well, everything, are the ones that vote en masse, on low turnouts I believe you basically have extremists who are massively motivated, outnumbered in student towns by students with nothing better to do, outnumbered en masse over the country by OAPs with nothing better to do
I.e. despite the forum's Tory leanings on most policies, there's a far more progressive lean to it due to the younger demographic, same with, no doubt, things like same-sex marriage and suchlike. The light at the end of the tunnel for the young people though is that often for the more socially progressive policies it's just a matter of waiting for enough old people to die before they get enacted through popular will.
Same.