Mindblown. Proves how much suckage religion is.
Is the bible still relevant today?
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Mindblown. Proves how much suckage religion is.
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why do you keep changing the question. If you are going to discuss Jesus as being gods son, from the. Christian point of view. Then you need to use the bible. Not your own believes. You keep changing the question and goal posts and wonder why everyone is against you.
I know. People interested in dogs/comics/poker will be posting in all the dog/comic/poker threads at this rate. Whatever next?
I enjoyed that docu when it first aired. I don't particularly recall it proving how much suckage anything was though. I'll have to re-watch it when I get home (I'm sad enough to be following this thread on my mobile in a shop car park
).I never stated that the Bible is 100% accurate, especially NOT about Jesus.
I dont need to take anything of what the Bible says as a fact to discuss either God or Jesus.
I can actually believe whatever I want about Jesus or God, the bible isnt the only source or correct way of believing anything about these two things.
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Again you miss the point and making up something random. I never said you believed in the bible at all, let alone 100%.
If you are going to discus if Jesus could be gods son, from the point of view from the bible. Then you have to argue the points from that point of view. so yes you do need to take the bible in to discussion when trying to argue that Jesus can't be the son of god from a Christian perspective.
Yet another post showing how pointless it is discussing anything with you in this thread.
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People like discussing it and I like reading it - can't see a problem.
You know, I was genuinely surprised in one of the science threads that we had recently at how intelligent bhavv appeared. Clearly once you get him off his specialist subject he turns back into a gibbering, beliggerent so and so.
I enjoyed that docu when it first aired. I don't particularly recall it proving how much suckage anything was though. I'll have to re-watch it when I get home (I'm sad enough to be following this thread on my mobile in a shop car park
Having watched it all, it does nothing but confirm to me that everything that this universe contains, every bit of matter, every single element and atom, every law of science and maths, absolutely everything that exists cant have simply have been magically invented by a supernatural sky daddy as most monotheistic religions, particularly Christianity believes was the case.
Points to note that the Bible is so massively flawed in anything and everything that it states on the subject of creationism, I have a very hard time believing that with the immense level of inaccuracy in biblical creationism, that the fundamental idea that everything that exists throughout the universe today was simply created by a magical creator called God.
Religion is not a specialist subject anyway, it is simply fairy tales for adults. There is absolutely no knowledge, or anything of intellectual worth to be found within the complete joke of any religious text or myth.
How anyone can blindly believe in a book that was written around 2000 years ago, and still believe that it is still in any way valid or relevant compared to all the understanding and knowledge we have today simply infuriates me.
And just because we dont have a definite answer on some things, doesnt mean that God must have done it, or that it must be caused by spirits and souls, and that there is no alternative or that any of these myths and fairy tales are in any way true.
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The Bible states that the Universe was made in 7 days, light and plants were made before the sun, a lot of Christians believe that the earth is only around 6000 years old, which I can only assume comes from biblical belief if so many people believe it, the Bible also indicates that the Earth is flat by saying that it has 4 corners and can fully be viewed from a single mountaintop, and it also states that Bats are birds.
And it says that witches are real and evil, oh noes!
And dinosaurs never existed, or if they did then it was for far less than a few days.
It also doesnt take much effort to see how most average Christians are also so strongly opposed to Evolution, the scientific estimate on the age of the Earth, to the Big bang theory and maybe even the thought of an ever expanding universe.
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So basically the documentary did nothing of the sort, but rather you learnt a couple of things about how big and grand our universe appears to be and decided that it meant religion was silly. Those are two very different things.
Now we're back to the trolltastic Bhavv we all know so well. You simply illustrate your own ignorance with such statements and if you can find such things 'infuriating' then I rather feel sorry for you. :\
you guys will need this before long.... trust me
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I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that 'discussion' with Bhavv is a waste of my day. Anyone who can gladly and loudly admit... no... proclaim that they are ignorant of a topic, can't be bothered reading or learning about it, but that they want to spend hours and hours trolling others about it just isn't worth the time. This is the very definition of trolling, and screams ignorance.
To lose point after point in a discussion and having to fall back to admitting you know nothing about which you speak, and THEN proceed to say it's all rubbish anyway is incredibly juvenile and weak-minded. I see no point in continuing. If someone genuinely wishes to discuss anything of this nature I'm always up for that, as I find it interesting. To waste my life talking in circles with a self-confessed ignoramus gets both of us precisely nowhere.
Because reading the bible really makes a person more intelligent than someone who hasnt read it, yea right.
I never said that I dont read or learn about religion, I simply refuse to read the full Bible.
You dont need to read the bible to learn about religion, and tbh, religion isnt really a valid subject that contains much knowledge anyway.
I never said that I dont read or learn about religion, I simply refuse to read the full Bible.
You dont need to read the bible to learn about religion, and tbh, religion isnt really a valid subject that contains much knowledge anyway.
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Well it certainly makes them more knowledgeable about the topic if they wish to discuss it for umpteen hours, and makes them look less foolish when they try to assert untruths and inaccuracies as fact; yes.
If I wanted to make a few dozen threads repeatedly discussing, say, varieties of heather, I'd certainly ensure I knew about them before I did so. Especially before deciding to fill those threads with strong opinions, so I didn't have to make them up as I go along, and then decide that heathers are stupid because I don't know the first thing about them.
EDIT: To clarify. Perhaps I should start a few dozen threads about biology and neurology (you say you did a degree in the former with a module on the latter). I haven't the first clue about them at any meaningful level, but that won't matter amirite? I can just decide what they both teach and then argue about them and still be right because it doesn't matter. Wait. What?
So why even start the thread when you already know it's such rubbish? Some of us do find the bible relevant, or are at least able to discuss it sensibly, but you won't even listen to arguments or follow sensibly from one idea to the next.
You're a troll.
Lolbhavv.
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Does the Bible refer to literal days and say it must be interpreted thus or to periods of time?
Are you referring to passages in Exodus, Deuteronomy, Galatians and Revelation? Because if so I've stumbled across this site which refers to said passages and gives them from various different versions of the Bible. Maybe you'd care to read them and then come back if you still think it's unequivocally intended as direct and literal proof that witches exist? nb it's worth pointing out that witches do exist because people practice witchcraft - whether spells or other practices have any impact on the World is another matter.
Can you back up this claim that most average Christians are opposed to Evolution - not even strongly opposed, just that they're opposed? I'm not talking about Christian fundamentalists but the average Christians that you refer to.
You're arguing against something that wasn't said - the point being made is that if you wish to criticise something then having an idea of what it actually says because you've acquainted yourself with it is a more logically substantial position than setting yourself in opposition to something based on what you "think" it might be saying.
A great deal of theoretical physics isn't observable or an object by its very definition. Doesn't stop many people spending a lifetime discussing it.
Your ignorance is astounding, especially with such gleeful admission of it. What a strange stance to take in life. I trust we won't need to suffer any more of your 'religion' threads or 'contributions' to other threads given your clear and acknowledged disdain and disinterest (not to mention lack of any knowledge) of the subject in question?
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