Advice with guitar pedal setup

therutz

therutz

therutz

Associate
Joined
30 Nov 2010
Posts
437
Location
Colchester England
Hi peeps

Just need some advice on the direction of my pedals

I use a JVM410H Marshall amp and have (pedal wise) joe satch big bad wah, TC Electronic tuner, TC electronic Nova delay, Phase 90, Chord GE-50 graphic EQ, Behringer chorus and behringer multi fx (trem phase chorus pitch shift all in one) and i also have a noise suppressor from Boss

Whats the best way to set them up ie in the loop and what stays out of the loop and is direct in to the amp

All these are powered by a VODOO power supply

cheers all
 
Last edited:
You would probably have to experiment. Generally distortion/amplification type effects go before the amp and modulation type effects into the loop. I would use this as a starting point...

Guitar - Tuner - Noise Suppressor - Wah - Amp

Effects loop: Amp - Behringer multi fx - Behringer chorus - Phase 90 - Delay - Amp

Not sure about the EQ, probably try it after the Wah.
 
Last edited:
I'd put delay and Behringer multifx in the loop, everything else before it. Usually you want anything like pitch shifting first in the chain so it's only affecting clean, then after that it's personal preference really as to whether you want phaser/chorus next. If you want the noise suppressor as a noise gate, put it first in the chain.
 
If he puts the EQ after the WAH then he shapes what comes out of the WAH personally I would have it before the WAH.

Guitar - Tuner – EQ - Noise Suppressor - Wah - Amp

Or

Guitar - Tuner - Noise Suppressor – EQ - Wah – Amp


To shape the sound after the suppressor.




------
 
So wah at the end of the chain then

at the mo its Guitar > tuner> wah > NS > (noise suppressor Phase 90) then out noise suppressor to amp and in the loop i have chorus > nova delay > behringer multi fx.i was getting a lot of digital sounds and it seems like no sweep in the big bad wah so put that at the end and it sounds loverly now

Also i have yet to fit the eq in the line so will try the suggestions on here
 
therutz said:
Also i have yet to fit the eq in the line so will try the suggestions on here
Click to expand...

For 41 years I've put the EQ at the start of the chain.
You need to shape the sound before you muck about with effects.

In fact if you look at a modern all-in-one multi effect the EQ comes at the start.
 
Depends if the EQ is used as a clean boost or as a shaping tool?

Usually you go something like some boosters/compressors, Wah, OD pedals (cleanest - dirtiest), fuzzes, modulation pedals, delay, clean boosts, Super hard on.

Personally I go guitar, wah, fuzz, boost, one channel amp.
 
Last edited:
dmpoole said:
For 41 years I've put the EQ at the start of the chain.
You need to shape the sound before you muck about with effects.

In fact if you look at a modern all-in-one multi effect the EQ comes at the start.
Click to expand...



Oh yeah I would agree with you about the modern multi fx placement of EQ in the chain. I would also add that those tend to have decent overdrive/distortion EQ/Shaping parameters.

It’s the reason why I gave two possibilities first one placing the EQ directly after the tuner and then secondly after the noise suppressor. I agree that this is a very subtle point though.




------
 
Last edited:
Weaver said:
It’s the reason why I gave two possibilities first one placing the EQ directly after the tuner and then secondly after the noise suppressor. I agree that this is a very subtle point though.

------
Click to expand...

The thing is that after the suppressor it basically works as a graphic on the amp and you can probably get the sound you're after without the graphic.
 
also just made some speaker leads for between my peavey 2600 series pa amp and my 300w tops (eminance speaker) and the cable i used is cable from a lawn mower as i was told this is good stuff to use

Do you think i should spend out for pro cable or is this ok ?

Havnt plugged it in yet to test them as one speaker is in repairs (tweeter went)
 
therutz said:
also just made some speaker leads for between my peavey 2600 series pa amp and my 300w tops (eminance speaker) and the cable i used is cable from a lawn mower as i was told this is good stuff to use

Do you think i should spend out for pro cable or is this ok ?

Havnt plugged it in yet to test them as one speaker is in repairs (tweeter went)
Click to expand...

They will work and if you bought pro cable you probably wouldn't hear any difference.
 
Noise suppressor should go after distortion/overdrive/distortion - should go after noisy pedals (if you have them). If pedals are fairly quiet then just take it out as the NS2 sucks tone (I'm about to take it out of my board as the good quality cables sorted noise issue out.

Agree with dmpoole about EQ - should be one of the first fx in the chain but I'm not a fan of using EQ as a boost. I'm even considering taking the EQ out or going for a 10 band as you're best to get the tone from the amp/guitar rather than through another pedal in the chain.

Oh, and about the best patch cable (for the money) Mogami with neutrix or switchcraft plugs, no question. If you're stuffering from noise then that's a good place to start.

Very subjective subject TBH
 
Last edited:
my EQ pedal is very noisy
i have massive hiss then turn that off and bam quiet again

where can i find those leads ? in any guitar shop ?

EDIT i have a nova drive but it isnt in the line as i use the JVM 410h distortion as i dind that good enough for my needs so no OD or DIS in line at all
 
Last edited:
The Noise suppressor is a NS-2 from Boss and has a loop within it !! do i plug effects through that or just in the chain before it (if the pedals are noisy that is)

I was using them through it but i was loosing a lot of naturel sound
 
Last edited:
therutz said:
The Noise suppressor is a NS-2 from Boss and has a loop within it !! do i plug effects through that or just in the chain before it (if the pedals are noisy that is)

I was using them through it but i was loosing a lot of naturel sound
Click to expand...

It shouldn't change the sound at all.
The only thing it should do is stop the sound coming through until it reaches a certain level.
 
It will if it isn't true bypass, even disengaged it will loose topend, sparkle and definition. Thats why true bypass is quite a popular mod on many boss units and also why tuners are often left out of most recording setups (they just suck tone). Engaged it will probably eat more clarity and possibly muffle the bottom end a bit too.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom