Not necessarily, and Apple's style is what is annoying, not the fact that they're advertising. It's their whole attitude that I don't like.
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Not necessarily, and Apple's style is what is annoying, not the fact that they're advertising. It's their whole attitude that I don't like.
I always agree to EULAs simply because they're generally a load of rubbish that doesn't mean anything, isn't legally binding and wouldn't actually stand up in a court.
Plus retrospective contracts? I've already bought the phone and been using it for years already, you can't realistically make me sign a new contract if I want to continue using it as I have been and pretend that it's valid and legally binding.
it all comes down to what you want and hence which operating system you go for.
You can't understand why people are appealed by a device that works, rarely breaks or chrashes, has one system and one automatic update and is so simple. Backed. Up with the best app store and iTunes that allows you to buy or rent films/tv. Now that's not everyone's cup of tea, but surly you can see why some people like it. For example I have a desktop to play with, I don't want to fiddle with mobile devices, I just want them to be simple and work well and gives me access to media, as smart phones are media devices.
Also price is only contract, buy outright and pay as you go or sim only contract and you are talking same price as any other high end phone.
The problem is when Apple take it upon themselves to declare that it's "illegal" to Jailbreak iPhones.
Its not a retrospective contract, it's a eula which you have to agree to to activate, then each new version of the os comes with a new eula, don't like it, don't install the new update. As for being legal or not, until we get a court case, we simply don't know.
The point still stands, it was known about, it's not transmitted back to apple, it's not a tracking device, it's not sold to other companies, it's not new at all. The only thing security experts where concerned about was that the file in ios4 is now not encrypted, which has now been fixed with the new update.
Surely any smartphone works with iTunes, I've never heard of Android phones crashing more often than Apple.
Marketing has obviously worked.
That's still irrelevant when EULAs mean nothing in general, also I periodically have to agree to some stupid EULA for iTunes or the Appstore when I haven't updated. In fact, I don't remember agreeing to any EULAs while updating anyway.
But it's still a retrospective contract, last time I used the Appstore to download the Paypal app, I had to agree to some EULA, I haven't updated my phone in about 6 months, I've used the Appstore many times between then and now, and multiple times I've had to agree to some 50 odd page EULA. That's retrospective.
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Well, yes, I can see why they're so popluar with people but for all I use my phone for (blackberry) ... well, It's just a phone to me. Call, text and use the facebook app (when extremely bored). I mean when I upgrade my phone (because I'm on contract) I do use everything I can the first few weeks - using all different apps and that but it dies down for me ...... I know how much is available when you do have an iPhone but do you really use all the apps day-to-day after the first few weeks?
But I still wouldn't be prepared to pay so much for them. (both contract or outright and go pay as you go)
More of a personal preference thing anyway.
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iTunes only works with windows (desktop version) and iOS. The films and tv series that are downloaded need iTunes to play. Something android as of yet still don't have a system to legally obtain any film or tv series. Other than samsung, but they are even more limited than apple, they only work on android powered samsung devices.
Apps on android crash far more regally, guess what I had an android phone. There's a simple reason, hardware is not limited, so pretty much every phone has a different set of components.
So again it depends what you want, android - flash support, more types of handsets, USB/sd card support,but no legal media, worse app store.
iOS on the other hand better apps, legal media, more stable, but heavily locked down as standard with very limited expandability.
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I only have a few apps, but I use them all the time, they are usually free ones from big companies. These big companies just have not made apps for android yet, again I'm sure they will do sooner rather than later. But ATM they haven't.
If they do then they don't do much of a job. Having to release what was in effect an antivirus for their phones after some malware got on the store suggests they don't care.
In the real world that has no meaning. Sure they patch the exploits, but those exploits could be used to maliciously so it's unfair to say they go after the jailbreakers for that purpose.
They can declare it illegal in as much as if you have a problem and have to take it one of their stores in that state they won't touch it. Which is completely reasonable.
If I were to mod any other kind of device and then complain to the manufacturer you'd get the same response.
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Bring it down to the iPads ~150% and I'd consider getting one again.until android high end phones fall in price significantly. Why price yourself lower than the alternative on top of that apple can charge a premium anyway.
I've got an iphone. I quite like it
Not really 'into' phones these days but I'll sum it up in my own way. I Like PCs in terms of being in control of everything and being able to set everything up as I want it etc graphic options etc. I Also like my PS3 and Xbox360 in the way that i switch it on for an hour, and play games for ... 1 full hour
. Now going back to the phone subject, most/all of my phone usage is a case of me finding a stolen 5 minutes of being stood in a queue etc and flipping my phone out and spending 5 minutes on the internet/facebook etc. Now I'm not saying android can't do this but I know what I'm like. I'd be flashing different firmwares and always 'testing' something. It's not that I can't set these things up, I can. That's where the problems start (in a time consuming way)
My next upgrade might well be Android, I have nothing against it, but for me, my phone is for calling, texting, and being 100% ready to give me the 5 minutes of internet access that I need in the 5 minutes that I have just being given. If I had all day to try and find what I can do with a phone, the I'm sure that Android would be the far better choice, but I don't get that time.
Not really 'into' phones these days but I'll sum it up in my own way. I Like PCs in terms of being in control of everything and being able to set everything up as I want it etc graphic options etc. I Also like my PS3 and Xbox360 in the way that i switch it on for an hour, and play games for ... 1 full hour
. Now going back to the phone subject, most/all of my phone usage is a case of me finding a stolen 5 minutes of being stood in a queue etc and flipping my phone out and spending 5 minutes on the internet/facebook etc. Now I'm not saying android can't do this but I know what I'm like. I'd be flashing different firmwares and always 'testing' something. It's not that I can't set these things up, I can. That's where the problems start (in a time consuming way)My next upgrade might well be Android, I have nothing against it, but for me, my phone is for calling, texting, and being 100% ready to give me the 5 minutes of internet access that I need in the 5 minutes that I have just being given. If I had all day to try and find what I can do with a phone, the I'm sure that Android would be the far better choice, but I don't get that time.
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What an odd thing to say, people seem to be under the impression that iphones are magical items, guess what Android phones call, text and are 100% ready to use the internet whenever you please just the same as an iphone, it's not any harder to do.
I've not really had any problems with Android, though I had one friend with an iPhone who's Volume rocker stopped working and his power button. though as with anything, I don't think it's soley the device, it's more to do with pure luck.
Though I'm one to talk, I spend money on mp3 players which can most likely be topped in with the iPhone. It just doesn't offer good bang for your buck imo, if they were more in line with other pricing strategies they'd sell more. But I think the iPhone fad is fading.
I just don't like Apple without going into the gritties
.That's not what I meant, it was a response to them saying people only seem to complain about having to "root" iPhones, what I meant is that I think people complain because of Apple's attitude about it, for example, them pretending it's illegal just because they've said so.
The reason they go after jailbreakers is over control, not because of security exploits. That's what Apple do, controlled platforms.
But we've had the same exploit in the last few 4.3.x releases still unpatched. Which nullifes both our points.
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As a programmer, I hate the Apple development environment. So much so that I got rid of my iPhone 4 and bought a Samsung Omnia 7 for some .Net goodness