In Praise of Proper Cooling! (with Pics)

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Hi Guys,

First post here, but I've been lurking for the last couple of days - found the forums while looking for a new case and heatsink, and it was much help indeed!

Anyway, I assembled the parts for my current computer in November 2009, and built them into a cheap case (I mean really cheap, like £12). To cut a long story short, this machine was not stable (BSODs, CTDs, Random Restarts etc). I downloaded Speedfan and was getting these results:

Cold Boot:
ColdBoot.jpg


Excuse the processor loads - it was still loading up my startup programs.

After 10 minutes:
10minutes.jpg


It would continue rising and reach upwards of 65 degrees when just browsing the internet etc. God knows what it was like under stress, probably aroun 75. Everything was stock at this point - (cooling and speeds).

Obviously this was not ideal, so I began the hunt for my solution. With some help from PCFormat, as well as finding this very forum, I settled on what I needed and bought myself a Coolermaster CM690II Advanced, and an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro. You'll have to forgive my rather sparse, random photos here.

Case with sides off:
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A good looking case, unlike anything I've ever used before. VERY spacious compared to the cheap ones, and not a single cut on my hands either! The HSF was being delivered seperately, so I built the machine up with the stocl cooling. My CPU power cable couldn't reach if I routed it behind teh MoBo tray, so I had to trace it along the surface:
IMG_9462.jpg


I have added the GFX card etc, but I didn't get a photo of it all ready to go. I reattatched the sides of the case, and booted up the machine.

Cold Boot:
NewColdBoot.jpg


Again, still loading my startup programs.

And after 10 minutes:
10minnewcase.jpg


Umm. Wow. I've been running it like up until this evening, and haven't had any instability at all. Nice.

Today, I took delivery of the HSF, and Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, again, no pics of it before installation. but here is a shot of it insie the computer, working its magic:
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With the new HSF installed, temperatures dropped again, not as significantly though. Cold boot was 27 degrees, idle at 29 and prime95 made it hit the dizzying heights of 35 degrees after 30 minutes.

Lets try some OC'ing, I thought, perhaps stupidly as I had never attempted it before and can't afford a new processor/motherboard at the moment. I managed to get the machine to load windows right up until hitting 3.9 GHz, when it would get to the log on screen, glitch and then BSOD. At 3.75+, I was able to load my user account and browse the web, but prime95 created a BSOD every time. Idle temperatures did not exceed 35 degrees though, so this may be down to vcore (total n00b :D)?

I'm running stably now, with coretemp showing these results
Idle:
CoreTemp-Scr.png


30 minutes of prime95:
CoreTemp-ScrPrime95.png


Gratuitous night time wide shot of my set up:
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So, there you have it. From an incredibly hot and unstable computer at stock speeds, to a pretty cool and very stable computer with a 700MHz overclock. All down to airflow, heatpipes, fans and (sic) cable management.

I'll be buying another 4GB RAM (unfortunately not sold at OCUK, as far as I can tell) and a modular PSU next month (recommendations ~£80?), when I'll rewire the machine and make it look as clean as some of the ones on here.

Cheers for taking the time to read this, I know you all already know all of this, but it was certainly an eye opener for me, and I'm sure it'll help someone in the same position I was, in the future.

Joe
 
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Motherboard: Asus M4A87TD/USB3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 545
RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600
Graphics: Radeon HD5770
HDD: WD Caviar black 1TB, WD Caviar Blue 500GB and an old Samsung IDE 120GB

So, very much mid-range, atm.
 
Yeah it's there now, but it won't go onto your first post.

Sweet! Nice little OC on the phenom;)

Welcome to OcUK! lol

May wanna check out the FAQ with regards to some of the rules and that if you haven't noticed any being enforced whilst lurking lol

Main one to watch out for is not to mention competitors, avoid that and your all good:D
 
Nice, welcome to OcUK! :D Tis nice to see some Oc'ing pics of something other than 1156 i7s, SB i5 and i7s :D Tis very nice. :)
 
Cheers Jack. I've got to say I'm impressed with this chip - having been run at just under the recommended max temp for 1.5 years, it's now running overclocked with enough headroom for me to be thinking about unlocking the 2 extra cores.

Kaeo, I had noticed a slight trend on here :D - The Phenom II seems to be very able to overclock, not to say that I wouldn't like an SB i7, I've just made the saving up period less s...l...u...g...g...i...s...h :)
 
Nice work Joe and welcome!

As for a PSU recommendation, very few would object I think to me suggesting this if you don't mind paying £75.

Not sure how long the cables are though to try and avoid cables meandering around your mobo. What I have noticed about your current set up though is in the third pic of your rig your cables are on the lower half of your PSU. If you was to turn your PSU upside down you might get another inch or two of cable. I'm not totally sure what way around the fan is on your PSU but your case affords good ventilation around the PSU andway, see picture 5 for details, and on the side panel you've got those two grills which I believe are to add another couple of 120mm fans. You could stick another one or two there to keep things even cooler by bringing some fresh air in and extrating out of the top and rear as I'm sure you're already doing.
 
Thanks to all for the kind welcome!

Nice piece of work. However I wouldn't advise playing darts over your dual monitor set-up. Costly failed double top imo :D
LOL. Fortunately for my screens, the amount of time I spend playing darts works out at about 0.25/blue moon.

Nice work Joe and welcome!

As for a PSU recommendation, very few would object I think to me suggesting this if you don't mind paying £75.

Not sure how long the cables are though to try and avoid cables meandering around your mobo. What I have noticed about your current set up though is in the third pic of your rig your cables are on the lower half of your PSU. If you was to turn your PSU upside down you might get another inch or two of cable. I'm not totally sure what way around the fan is on your PSU but your case affords good ventilation around the PSU andway, see picture 5 for details, and on the side panel you've got those two grills which I believe are to add another couple of 120mm fans. You could stick another one or two there to keep things even cooler by bringing some fresh air in and extrating out of the top and rear as I'm sure you're already doing.

Thanks J-Fro. That XFX looks ideal - enough power for my current setup as well as for my planned upgrades (Radeon 6950, doubling the amount of RAM and unlocking the extra 2 cores, if they're stable). I saw in another topic on here, that someone managed to find an extender for the CPU power lead. I'll look into flipping the PSU round though - cheers for the tip.

In terms of fans, I was thinking of a second exhaust on the ceiling, and a second intake at the bottom, would adding side fans not mess with the airflow a little? (I'm not too up to scratch on cooling)
 
The 5770 idles at around 42, load is mid to high 50s. A little lower now, with the freezer 7 pro in there sucking the hot air away.
 
Corsair HX620. Very stable for OCing. Can't remember how much I payed now though. Probably within your budget though.

the HX620 is a nice unit, but afaik not produced anymore. The XFX 650W XXX is a similar Seasonic type thing, very well reviewed (check out jonnyguru for PSU reviews).

The HX series is kind of a benchmark for good modular PSUs, but expensive.

The PPC's are also very good, as well as the new OCZ ZX power supplies, which are fully modular and Gold rated (very high efficiency across the load range).
 
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