Is PSN under attack? - PSN now back up 15/05

Twentyone said:
I actually think the majority won't even know all about it. They will play their consoles as normal and when it's back up then that's great.

People might be vocal on the net and all but I doubt it's the majority :)
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You don't think the majority of PS3 users know PSN has been hacked?
 
Psycho Sonny said:
how do they get in? who signs for the packages? whoever signs = culprit. its not that hard to figure out surely, they need to be at the address all the stuff is being sent to.
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yes, unless it's say.. airline tickets that can be printed off?
or the house is magically empty?
signature is.. utterly untraceable? there's no magic database of signatures and I know mine at least varies wildly.

Anywho, looking into data protection law it seems there's this thing called the "EU-US Safe Harbor framework" which requires any organisation transmitting data from the EU to the US to meet certain criteria and to be certified. Can't find Sony computer entertainment on the list of certified organisations, only Sony Music Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc. What's going on there?
Maybe I didn't read all of the T&C :eek:
 
i-bert said:
You don't think the majority of PS3 users know PSN has been hacked?
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I said I don't think the majority of the users know all about it.

wannabedamned said:
I would agree, if it hadnt been all over the news :p
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Well actually it's barely been in the Norwegian papers for example.

I'm just saying that very casual gamers or parents (or whatever group) I imagine are going to just think that they are covered for card fraud and move on with it. They are not going to go research about how Sony didn't do their job or the motive behind the whole thing, decide who is in the right and so on.
 
demonix said:
Then it seems that you don't know that several websites like amazon don't ask for that security code and neither do they use the verified by visa or mastercard securecode services so as long as this person knows the card holders address they can just use the card as much as they like.
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You are aware that not only are you covered by CC companies, Sony have given every PSN member a $1million fraud insurance package? So im pretty sure we'll all be covered if anything ever does happen (which im sure it wont), ive not even seen an increase of spam from my email address.
 
Sydney said:
yes, unless it's say.. airline tickets that can be printed off?
or the house is magically empty?
signature is.. utterly untraceable? there's no magic database of signatures and I know mine at least varies wildly.

Anywho, looking into data protection law it seems there's this thing called the "EU-US Safe Harbor framework" which requires any organisation transmitting data from the EU to the US to meet certain criteria and to be certified. Can't find Sony computer entertainment on the list of certified organisations, only Sony Music Entertainment and Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc. What's going on there?
Maybe I didn't read all of the T&C :eek:
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even more stupidity

when the person turns up at airport, guess what, he gets handcuffed and taken away. did you know this ticket was booked using a stolen credit card?

house is magically empty = no packages, if they are being sent recorded.

i ordered computer parts - had to be signed for
i ordered clothes - had to be signed for

if credit card fraud was easy, i would be a millionaire, i have access to thousands of credit card details.


you do understand i was saying that police would intercept the person as they signed for the package?
 
Sorry but I have ordered a lot of stuff from amazon that I have never signed for on delivery, the only time I have ever signed is when I have paid extra for that particular service.
Regarding credit cards, yes, you are generally protected against fraud if you notice something amiss. Debit cards are not as clean cut as they actually take the funds directly from your bank account so you are inconvenienced by not having your money while waiting for claims to go through.

Sonny do us all a favour and pack in calling people stupid when you don't even seem to have a grasp on the facts yourself, stop trolling and go elsewhere please.
Some people appear to be genuinely concerned and all you do is bait them.
 
I dont see why they wouldnt offer the same protection to other countries. It makes no sense to doubt it. Especially considering the letter says they're working on bringing something to other regions. Why so negative all the time, seems anything positive gets given a dim light and anything negative gets lolled about and becomes concrete fact
 
mavity said:
Sorry but I have ordered a lot of stuff from amazon that I have never signed for on delivery, the only time I have ever signed is when I have paid extra for that particular service.
Regarding credit cards, yes, you are generally protected against fraud if you notice something amiss. Debit cards are not as clean cut as they actually take the funds directly from your bank account so you are inconvenienced by not having your money while waiting for claims to go through.

Sonny do us all a favour and pack in calling people stupid when you don't even seem to have a grasp on the facts yourself, stop trolling and go elsewhere please.
Some people appear to be genuinely concerned and all you do is bait them.
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if it fits through letter box you generally dont need to sign for it, if it doesnt you do, therefore cd's, games, blu rays, dvd's are the main things which get sent with no signing.

the people who are concerned have no need to be, they are fully covered, by their banks and by sony apparently.

also there hasnt been a single case reported of fraud due to this network hack.

so when people keep on going on about their details being stolen again and again, and how upset they are, they have no clue as to what has happened.

do you really think amazon, one of the biggest retailers in the world, has no security in place for these types of things?
 
Just had a parcel from amazon delivered the other day, quite large box, nearly 2 foot square. I wasn't in to accept it, they left it behind my wheely bin.....
 
wannabedamned said:
I dont see why they wouldnt offer the same protection to other countries. It makes no sense to doubt it. Especially considering the letter says they're working on bringing something to other regions. Why so negative all the time, seems anything positive gets given a dim light and anything negative gets lolled about and becomes concrete fact
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Did you read the link? There is different laws and regulations compared to the USA. If offering the same then why not just announce when they did with the USA customers? Which makes it pretty clear the same is probably not going to be offered across the board IMO.

Negative is having to worry about this sort of thing, trying to make it positive by saying Sony will protect us is a bit ironic considering the reasons we are worried about identity fraud don't you think.

Sorry we can't all be positive about Super Sony to save us all....
 
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Did you read the link within the link? The letter

A program for U.S. PlayStation Network and Qriocity customers that includes a $1 million identity theft insurance policy per user was launched earlier today and announcements for other regions will be coming soon.
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Why read that in a dull light?
 
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