"British Tea Party" organises pro-cuts rally - May 14th

The Tea Party across the Atlantic are such a scary bunch that even other Republicans are loathe to include them in mainstream and front-line politics. The British example here isn't anywhere near as extreme - you don't see any of them questioning David Milliband's birthplace for example - and as a left-winger I would say it is even very understandable why they are doing what they do. There is nothing redeeming about the American right whereas the British right have their reasons steeped in logic and rationale, even if it is in a completely different direction to the left.
 
oh shut up, you sound like my gran.

Whilst we're throwing insults around you sound like my great Uncle who has demetia.*


*Mods, I udnerstand if a ban stick comes my way for the above comment.


On the subject of the march/rally - good luck to them and I hope they have an enjoyable and productive day trying to get thier point across (even though I disagree with the point they are trying to make).

They're going to look rather foolish though if only 1500 of them turn up when we had 400k ish at the anti-cuts rally.
 
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The Tea Party across the Atlantic are such a scary bunch that even other Republicans are loathe to include them in mainstream and front-line politics. The British example here isn't anywhere near as extreme - you don't see any of them questioning David Milliband's birthplace for example - and as a left-winger I would say it is even very understandable why they are doing what they do. There is nothing redeeming about the American right whereas the British right have their reasons steeped in logic and rationale, even if it is in a completely different direction to the left.

Basic black and whtie logic.

We don't live in such a simple black and white world :p
 
Any group of people that protest against government are completely attacked by the government and the media and the fan base of the government.

Has there ever been a legitimate group or movement that is against government spending and government in the eyes of the government?

The tea party in the usa started out as a nice group of intelligent people who have had enough of the big government and over spending, i still saw a video of the very first few meet ups that they had and i knew the people online who were involved in the idea to start it up again. They were very civil and just all chatting about how bad government was etc, nothing more realy.

But the media and sarah palin and other bafoons hijacked the anti-tax movement and they started associating it with all sorts of non sense, the whole stigma through association. Then any time anyone questions the government or its crazy followers they were labelled a tea partier and as this had been associated with all types of non sense they were considered fringe and crazy etc.

This is an old tactic of the government and its followers and it is the way how they managed to side line any resistance over the centuries. The original people that started the tea party movement in recent years turned their backs on the movement when the media and sarah palin got involved.
 
Wonder how many of the pro cuts people on here (seems to be almost everyone) will go and march for something they believe in? :)

Well the anti cuts protest was a damp squib when you see how many went to see the recent royal wedding if numbers are all you care about. What does that tell you?
 
Are you happy for the hardest hit march to be ignored because of low turnout too?

Yes, what a tenous link you've created between both rallies there. One was a demonstration by a significant representation of the disabled minority of the country with significant barriers in mobility and cost in attending. The other wasn't.

lol Dolph?
 
I wouldn't attend, because I don't buy the idea that vocal minorities should set policies when we have already expressed our views in elections (whether electoral reform, either of the voting system or of information requirements is needed is a different matter, or whether we need greater constitutional protection from the vagaries of popular opinion).
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/

52% of the electorate voted for parties who made it quite clear in the election run-up that they would cut slower. Assuming all the independents and 'others' took a similar line to the Conservatives its still the case that most people voted for something other than what is happening.
 
Yes, what a tenous link you've created between both rallies there. One was a demonstration by a significant representation of the disabled minority of the country with significant barriers in mobility and cost in attending. The other wasn't.

lol Dolph?

As I suspected, the right to protest only ever works one way with those on the left ;) Always some sort of double standard to be employed.
 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/

52% of the electorate voted for parties who made it quite clear in the election run-up that they would cut slower. Assuming all the independents and 'others' took a similar line to the Conservatives its still the case that most people voted for something other than what is happening.

Perhaps you missed that little EU debt crisis that kicked off right in the middle of election season and somewhat changed the market towards European debt?

If you think the cuts are bad now, they'd be a lot worse if the market turned on us...
 
It is obvious that thousands would turn out for anti cut protests due to the sheer size of the public sector and indirect public sector jobs.
 
Participation is not necessarily representative of opinion. Whenever I have a chance to read OcUK and come across these types of threads 90% of the time I would hold a similar opinion to Dolph.

That doesn't mean I have the time and energy to waste debating with those on here who have a direct interest in keeping the status quo!
 
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Perhaps you missed that little EU debt crisis that kicked off right in the middle of election season and somewhat changed the market towards European debt?

If you think the cuts are bad now, they'd be a lot worse if the market turned on us...

Markets won't turn on us.

The 'left' aren't what you think.
 
Perhaps you missed that little EU debt crisis that kicked off right in the middle of election season and somewhat changed the market towards European debt?

If you think the cuts are bad now, they'd be a lot worse if the market turned on us...

My point was aimed at the 'we've got what we voted for' arguement. It is not accurate.
 
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