FAO: Bus passengers
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Between £5k and £13k dependent on the specification. The software is where the majority of the expense lies. That is the complete unit cost.
Oyster software and hardware is already existing though, expanding it to a new part of the country would not require a software re-write.
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I still shudder when I think about life before getting a car. Luckily I never encountered human waste on the bus, but everything else on the OP's list was pretty much the norm for me.
The sad thing is that, other than these human scum, the bus service itself wasn't too bad.
The sad thing is that, other than these human scum, the bus service itself wasn't too bad.
With resepect rypt, we are not talking about simply installing Oyster, which is outdated and not suitable for most regions outside London. Oyster software itself is only a very small part of the overall cost anyway. The hardware and software already exist for better, more modern systems, which is what operators are buying, however it stil represents significant cost.
Regardless of your opinion, intalling new scan enabled ticket processors is a significant investment, and each operator needs custom software (not custom programming) loadouts for a myriad of reasons, cashless systems such as Oyster notwithstanding.
Just because technology exists doesnt mean it is free.
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Effective at protecting the driver from physical abuse while in his cab, however bus changeovers, and waiting periods etc still make it impractical to carry excessive change, besides the fact that in the vast majority of cases the level of float given to a driver is sufficent.
If they were routinely issued with significant amounts of cash then the insurance requirements would increase along with costs and ultimately ticket prices.
Each depot manager decides what level the float should be, that you got caught out on occassion doesnt warrant increasing it excessively, especially as other options are available to the driver to ensure you reach your destination.
As far as I know it's a flat rate fare in London.
Am I missing something here, why is London always being brought up, do people think that London is the only city with a bus service or something?
But jas didn't mention London? How many cities have a flat rate fare other than London?
I was at the bus station and he gave me a change voucher, if he can't even give me a £5 note as soon as he has loaded up with cash then goodness knows how little change he was issued? Maybe none. No doubt done so that they could make more money by not giving people change when they get caught out by the ceaselessly increasing bus fares, the prices of which are as difficult to obtain as top secret files from MI5. The operator cannot seriously expect the correct change when their prices are guarded so secretly.
I was at the bus station and he gave me a change voucher, if he can't even give me a £5 note as soon as he has loaded up with cash then goodness knows how little change he was issued? Maybe none. No doubt done so that they could make more money by not giving people change when they get caught out by the ceaselessly increasing bus fares, the prices of which are as difficult to obtain as top secret files from MI5. The operator cannot seriously expect the correct change when their prices are guarded so secretly.
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I'm talking about London, jas responded to my post, therefore jas should be talking about London too. Doesn't sound like it though. Cash fares haven't been that cheap in years.
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She's still here.
Change voucher means that the company was Stagecoach I assume?
Without knowing exactly how many people got onto the bus before you or how they paid it is hard to judge, however if he is at his home Station then he should have enough change to accommodate you.
However Stagecoach do operate a correct change system in many of their regions, this means that the Driver will provide change if he is able to do so, however it remains the responsibility of the passenger to be able to provide the correct fare and if they cannot, they cannot travel. You were given a change voucher as a viable alternative to refusal of travel.
This is on their websites and T&C's of service, so it shouldn't really be a problem.
As far as fares are concerned, have you asked for a Guide to fares and Tickets at your local Station? All Stagecoach stations should have them available.
We have our most common fares listed on our websites, we also offer a journey planner at our ticket offices and you can call to find out specific fares on all services. We also operate a system where if we cannot provide change then we take your details and the £10 note for example, if the driver cannot provide change by the end of your journey then the note is returned to you and the depot will request payment asap either by post or in one of the ticket offices or inspectors offices at various stations.
You will not be refused travel.
I cannot see that you can expect anyone to be more reasonable than that, however it is always politely requested that passengers have the correct change or at least refrain from using large denomination notes when travelling.
I cannot speak for your local operator, but I suggest that if you have a real issue with the driver in question or their policy you write to them.
As for me, I have had enough of talking about work, so enjoy your next bus journey and just spare a thought for the driver who has to put up with crap all day, so just give them a little latitude now and then.
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I have got bus(es) pretty much daily in Manchester centre for 10 years now and have rarely come across anything that people mention in threads like these.
Granted you get the odd special person, but they've always been pretty harmless and not affected myself or other passengers.
Granted you get the odd special person, but they've always been pretty harmless and not affected myself or other passengers.
I've been using the Cardiff Bus service for almost 3 years and haven't come across anything that I haven't seen on the train.
This is GD remember, a lot of people are special here.
Yes.
If I could buy a bus ticket like a train ticket I would be in heaven, just type where I want to go and have the tickets sent to me or use the machine at the station. However stagecoach don't offer that so the only option is to pray you have the right change when you get on the bus.
If you can't work out which two substances belong in the toilet and not your pants then please do not sit near me on the bus
I know which words...why in gods name would they be on a bus :/