Madeleine McCann's parents

teejay73 · 13 May 2011 at 21:24

lttlejoe said:
OK... supposing we accept for a moment that those who suggest that the McCanns killed Maddie are correct... where the hell did they hide the body and why hasn't it been found?

I'm quite sure that whole surrounding area will have been gone over with a fine tooth comb - probably more than in a regular disappearance, especially with Maddie being so young!
Also, when did her parents have the opportunity to dispose of her body and where did they hide it?

I dont think the McCanns killed Maddie or at least not intentionally anyway, there was talk of Maddie being administered sedatives, though surely, being medical professionals even if they did give her sedatives, they would have given her a correct amount of dosage.

If on the other hand it was calculated and the intention was to kill Maddie, then giving her just the right amount of sedative to induce death would have been easy for them as they would have the knowledge to give the exact dosage, though I doubt calpol could do it.

Greebo · 13 May 2011 at 21:27

teejay73 said:
I dont think the McCanns killed Maddie or at least not intentionally anyway, there was talk of Maddie being administered sedatives, though surely, being medical professionals even if they did give her sedatives, they would have given her a correct amount of dosage.

If on the other hand it was calculated and the intention was to kill Maddie, then giving her just the right amount of sedative to induce death would have been easy for them as they would have the knowledge to give the exact dosage, though I doubt calpol could do it.

I think it was an accident. Overdose or something else. It happenned much earlier in the evening and they got rid of the body and then played things out as normal until she was found missing at 10pm.

oldbag · 13 May 2011 at 21:29

And no one saw them carrying a body?

teejay73 · 13 May 2011 at 21:36

oldbag said:
And no one saw them carrying a body?

Actually a family who were on their way back from a meal saw some-one who was carrying a child, who was in a statue posture (the child), the father of the family member later stated that when he saw on the t.v how Gerry McCann was carrying one of his twins after they had landed back from portugal, he noticed how he carried that child the same way as the person he saw that night and was alarmed by it enough to report it to the police.

This however was when Gerry Mcann was accounted for elsewhere at the time.

JHeaton · 13 May 2011 at 21:36

Greebo said:
I think it was an accident. Overdose or something else. It happenned much earlier in the evening and they got rid of the body and then played things out as normal until she was found missing at 10pm.

I actually don't agree; if it was an accidental death, I think the distress would seem more genuine, there would be less of the cold feeling coming from the pair, no inappropriate laughter or smiling, especially not on her birthday. The way that life for them seemed to return to 'normal' so quickly just doesn't match up with how I imagine a mother would feel after the loss of her child that wasn't intended. Naturally, this is based on assumptions from the evidence and my own feelings, but so much of it doesn't add up with some of the evidence that's available... :/

oldbag said:
And no one saw them carrying a body?

There was, apparently, a witness who saw a man fitting Gerry McCann's description carrying a child fitting the description of Madeleine (in particular, light pink pyjamas) away from the apartments that night. After seeing Gerry McCann holding one of the other children in the same way in a TV interview, he felt convinced that he was the same person. Prior to that, the lead was never followed up, the focus instead remaining on the abductor allegedly seen by one of the McCanns' friends.

Edit: Beaten to it. ^

Greebo · 13 May 2011 at 21:37

oldbag said:
And no one saw them carrying a body?

Well there is the unrelated British holiday maker who gave a witness statement with a description that matched the father carrying the girl on the other side of town.

EDIT: Meh too slow

oldbag · 13 May 2011 at 21:37

If thats true, why was it not followed up?

Greebo · 13 May 2011 at 21:40

oldbag said:
If thats true, why was it not followed up?

It was by the Portuguse detective in charge but he was pulled off the case. The replacement dropped the British witness.

oldbag · 13 May 2011 at 21:42

They didn't want negative publicity about the place as it's a holiday destination?

teejay73 · 13 May 2011 at 21:51

Greebo said:
It was by the Portuguse detective in charge but he was pulled off the case. The replacement dropped the British witness.

If that is true, then it could prove critical when the uk re-open the investigation, though that depends if the times dont put him in another place, though if I remember was he not talking to some british guy at the time of this sighting outside his apt??

oldbag · 13 May 2011 at 21:52

Cameron didn't say he would re-open it did he? Thought he said he would review it.

JHeaton · 13 May 2011 at 21:58

teejay73 said:
If that is true, then it could prove critical when the uk re-open the investigation, though that depends if the times dont put him in another place, though if I remember was he not talking to some british guy at the time of this sighting outside his apt??

That was at a different time; at the time that the McCanns' friend supposedly saw the abductor at the top of the street, but her account is ridiculous and has been changed so many times...

Why was the Portuguese detective taken off the case at the time? I haven't been able to find an official reason for that, just claims that it was due to British government pressure.

Twentyone · 13 May 2011 at 21:58

teejay73 said:
If that is true, then it could prove critical when the uk re-open the investigation, though that depends if the times dont put him in another place, though if I remember was he not talking to some british guy at the time of this sighting outside his apt??

This site (although probably a bit biased) has something about that:

28. On the evening of 3 May 2007, Jane Tanner claimed that when she saw a man carrying a child, she walked past right past Dr Gerald McCann and the McCanns’ friend, Jez Wilkins. But both of them said that Jane Tanner had not walked past them. There was a contradiction about which side of the lane Dr Gerald McCann was on, when talking to Jez Wilkins. What is the truth about that occasion? Which person or persons gave the correct version of events?

29. Why did one of the McCanns’ detectives, Arthur Cowley, on a Channel 4 documentary, say that the above contradiction was ‘irrelevant’?

Biohazard · 13 May 2011 at 22:05

Athanor said:
I think we've established your whole tirade in this thread was because you didn't like a post in SC.... Now just let it go...

Grow up and apologise like a real man would.

teejay73 · 13 May 2011 at 22:11

oldbag said:
Cameron didn't say he would re-open it did he? Thought he said he would review it.

Taken from sky on David Camerons quote "I sincerely hope this fresh approach will provide the investigation with the new momentum that it needs."

I think though because it happened in Portugal, it would be their call?

Biohazard · 13 May 2011 at 22:15

teejay73 said:
Taken from sky on David Camerons quote "I sincerely hope this fresh approach will provide the investigation with the new momentum that it needs."

I think though because it happened in Portugal, it would be their call?

It's buzz words.

Greebo · 13 May 2011 at 22:26

oldbag said:
Cameron didn't say he would re-open it did he? Thought he said he would review it.

Well assigning the MET special department on child homicide to review, translate the Spanish files and reinterview witnesses is almost as good. Depending on what they find, depends on whether the case is properly re-opened. Not sure if there is any difference anyway in this case?

Macro · 14 May 2011 at 00:07

Biohazard said:
Grow up and apologise like a real man would.

Yawn, are you still going on, and, on, and on chip on the shoulder boy? You got caught out and don't like it, now it's time to live with it and move on, rather than stalk my every post with some strange obsession. Shoo...

Biohazard · 14 May 2011 at 00:08

Athanor said:
Yawn, are you still going on, and, on, and on chip on the shoulder boy? You got caught out and don't like it, now it's time to live with it and move on, rather than stalk my every post with some strange obsession. Shoo...

Stop accusing me of being a liar when it isn't the case then. Apologise.

Type whatever makes you feel better it doesn't make a difference, you trolled yourself out then and you will again now.

Macro · 14 May 2011 at 10:10

Biohazard said:
Stop accusing me of being a liar when it isn't the case then. Apologise.

Type whatever makes you feel better it doesn't make a difference , you trolled yourself out then and you will again now.

The only person who has called you a liar is you, you made a mistake in a completely different thread referring to the wrong post, sulked when you got corrected, tried to dismiss the actual facts as irrelevant and now, as your earlier post showed, are obsessed with stalking me even in a different thread trying to a prove the same old point because you embarrassed yourself. You were wrong then and you are wrong now, it's ok to be wrong and admit it, it's what grown ups do.

Your following me around is quite endearing if a little odd...