Suicidal friend - NHS response?

[FnG]magnolia · 15 May 2011 at 11:27

Ksanti said:
Her opinion of the mental health of someone she's known for most of her life means nothing? She's worried that he's suicidal, and it means nothing??

Sorry, I should be more clear. Her medical opinion of his health means nothing unless she has a medical background. Being worried about someone who is showing potential signs of depression/suicide is completely normal. It sounds to me like she needs a professional to determine whether the 'potential signs' part is just that or something more.

Just as an aside, why are you still posting here instead of speaking to NHS24 or other health professionals if it's that important? I'll say again, this is not the place you want to be posting comments on. If you're worried then do something about it.

I hope it works out for you and your buddy.

Ksanti · 15 May 2011 at 11:36

UrbanTerror said:
Im sorry your right. Maybe I should grow up. Do you think asking a bunch of computer enthusiasts about the mental health issues of a guy I dont even know will help me achieve this?

Thanks.

A bunch of several thousand, of whom I'm sure there are a few have gone through a similar situation and know far better than I do how to proceed.

Ksanti · 15 May 2011 at 11:37

[FnG]magnolia;19140825 said:
Sorry, I should be more clear. Her medical opinion of his health means nothing unless she has a medical background. Being worried about someone who is showing potential signs of depression/suicide is completely normal. It sounds to me like she needs a professional to determine whether the 'potential signs' part is just that or something more.

Just as an aside, why are you still posting here instead of speaking to NHS24 or other health professionals if it's that important? I'll say again, this is not the place you want to be posting comments on. If you're worried then do something about it.

I hope it works out for you and your buddy.

I'm asking here because I'm finding out what S can do. He's not my friend, I don't know enough to talk to a professional, I'm just trying to help her.

[FnG]magnolia · 15 May 2011 at 11:40

Tell her to talk to healthcare professionals, people who can advise the best route to take. That's it, that's all you need to do.

Dabbles · 15 May 2011 at 11:59

It may just be the way you describe it, but it sounds like he's one of those manipulative chaps who play the 'I love you' card with a girl to try to bed her and then if they mentioned finishing it or decline his generous offer he plays the 'I'll kill myself' card. I have a mate who used to do this, but he never tried to top himself in the end (once one eventually called his bluff). He kinda grew out of it.

Ksanti · 15 May 2011 at 12:20

Dabbles said:
It may just be the way you describe it, but it sounds like he's one of those manipulative chaps who play the 'I love you' card with a girl to try to bed her and then if they mentioned finishing it or decline his generous offer he plays the 'I'll kill myself' card. I have a mate who used to do this, but he never tried to top himself in the end (once one eventually called his bluff). He kinda grew out of it.

He's desperate, hardly a player in any sense. He's never had a girlfriend (really) in his life. He's the type who is so widely known to be desperate that even his parents weren't phased by the fact he was in a 'relationship' with a 'girl' he met on the internet living in Israel. He might be trying to control her though, in some sick manner, so fair point.

[FnG]magnolia · 15 May 2011 at 12:22

Ksanti said:
He's desperate, hardly a player in any sense. He's never had a girlfriend (really) in his life. He's the type who is so widely known to be desperate that even his parents weren't phased by the fact he was in a 'relationship' with a 'girl' he met on the internet living in Israel. He might be trying to control her though, in some sick manner, so fair point.

For someone you don't know, you do seem to know a lot about him.

Is this friend actually you?

Voltjunkie · 15 May 2011 at 12:26

Ksanti said:
If he's still feeling like this, making himself throw up as self-punishment/out of depression after E didn't say she loved him, I can't see that they're doing their job?

You do realise that dealing with mental health is a slow and ongoing process? Just because he is seeing medical professionals doesn't mean that he will instantly stop feeling depressed.

I very much doubt you and your friend know more about this person's mental health than the highly trained professionals he is already seeing.

Ksanti · 15 May 2011 at 12:29

[FnG]magnolia;19141190 said:
For someone you don't know, you do seem to know a lot about him.

Is this friend actually you?

It's not, I'm just close with both S and E, and it's what they've told me.

[FnG]magnolia · 15 May 2011 at 12:32

Ok, I'm done here. Tell your friends who actually know this guy to get guidance from clinically capable professionals. That's all you can do, man.

AHarvey · 15 May 2011 at 12:37

You want to 'do' S don't you?

That's why you've asked for help, you want to impress her

Deluxe1 · 15 May 2011 at 12:46

AHarvey said:
You want to 'do' S don't you?

That's why you've asked for help, you want to impress her

Was just going to post something similar.

Ksanti · 15 May 2011 at 12:48

AHarvey said:
You want to 'do' S don't you?

That's why you've asked for help, you want to impress her

No, if I wanted to I could without potentially playing with other people's lives...

Guy helping girl with suicidal friend?
Can't be nice, must be horny.

Twentyone · 15 May 2011 at 16:14

If he is already in contact with professionals then chances are he has told them what the tells her (throws up etc). And if he hasn't then that sounds a bit attention seeking to be honest.

But there is not much you can do. It's a very very long progress to recover (if you ever do) from depression so it's hard to look at it there and then and say it's not getting better.