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Good news but the UK should not have to rely on Switzerland for a civilised way to die.
Switzerland: Zurich votes to keep assisted suicide
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Good news but the UK should not have to rely on Switzerland for a civilised way to die.
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Good.
I'm a firm believer that if everybody is 'happy' half a loaf of bread isn't always better than no loaf.
I'm a firm believer that if everybody is 'happy' half a loaf of bread isn't always better than no loaf.
I always find it funny how a lot of people find it morally correct to 'put down' animals that are suffering with serious conditions or that arent going to live very long, but if its a human and that person actually wants to have it done, it suddenly becomes immoral.
Lol humans.
Lol humans.
I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want this to be legal.
What are the none-religious arguments against it?
I bet England would get a high percentage of people voting for it if given the chance.
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Religion has poisoned the minds of man sadly. There are legitimate concerns with assisted suicide such as people being coerced into it but these can be combatted against with the correct regulation to provide the much more important right to die for those that currently suffer needlessly, largely at the hands of disgusting religion.
The sanctity of life god botherers hold zero water when confronted with the idea of forcing a rape victim to keep the subsequent rapists child and forcing her to carry the pregnancy.
So that people have the choice to die with dignity, as opposed to being forced to live years in daily agony, watching themselves debilitate and feeling their mind slip into madness. That's why.
There are no burning fires of hell for people who commit suicide, that's archaic BS that was designed to, yup you guessed it, put the fear of an unseen God into people who may otherwise want to do so.
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Good on Zurich. It's unfortunate that citizens from other countries have to travel there to have assisted suicide but at least somewhere allows them that option. It's obviously not an option that should be taken lightly but equally it's an important choice that allows people some measure of dignity if they are suffering from a terminal illness.
They're not prevented from doing so. They're prevented from having someone kill them.
That's the state of the current laws.
So if you want to kill yourself and are able to kill yourself, you can. If you can't, then nobody can help you. It's 'assisted suicide' not murder.
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Nail and head.
It's all the 'what if' scenarios for those unable to make the decision themselves that prevent it from becoming law here. And whilst you can argue that pets have more rights and all the rest of it, putting down a pet and putting down a human are two entirely different scenarios. Comparing them is somewhat ridiculous.
My point is that legally the two are not distinct. You clearly think they should be. But legally they aren't, so it's a bit of a stretch to discuss them as if they are. A person who is incapable of committing suicide can't kill themselves because they are physically incapable of doing so, not because the law says they can't. What the law says is that they can't be killed by someone else, as then that other person is committing a crime of a greater or lesser degree.
The constant of assisted suicide is arguably oxymoronic anyway, as if someone else kills you, then by definition it is not suicide.
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Question: Can you go to one of these centers, eg. Dignitas, and receive the service if you aren't terminally ill but just want to have life over and done with?