Someone ... please invent a merge in turn camera!

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Forget speed cameras, they don't solve anything.

What we need are merge in turn cameras, so that the ***holes who are incapable of this very simple concept get some nice fines!

There are roadworks going on en route from me to my GF's place, on a stretch of road between two roundabouts there is a sign informing you that in 500yards the right hand lane is closed.
To me, that means that at that point you merge in turn ... seems that no other driver on the road around me knows that. EVERY single car is queueing in the left hand lane (in almost stationary traffic).

So ... I'm happily driving down the right hand lane, at around the speedlimit (it's still 50mph as the 30 limit does not kick in until the point where the lanes merge).
I'm about to pass some builders truck (a proper truck, not a van/pickup) ... and the **** moves into the middle to block me. Causing me to emergency stop.
If my car wasn't light, with good tyres and decent brakes (that were warmed up) I'm not sure I would have stopped in time, as he made the move almost as I was level with the end of his truck.




So yer, can we have some good driving cameras please?
And why do people not comprehend how to merge in turn?
 
Because people dont know how to merge in properly so it ends up being a massive queue and chancers trying to get in further up, and nobody wants to let them in, which imo is fair as most have been sitting in the queue for ages and who wants to let someone else in thats just arrived? if everyone left a car length then there would not be this problem..
 
rypt said:
If my car wasn't light, with good tyres and decent brakes (that were warmed up) I'm not sure I would have stopped in time, as he made the move almost as I was level with the end of his truck.
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And if you weren't passing a queue of stationary traffic at 50mph you wouldn't have had to perform an emergency stop in the first place.

I agree with the spirit of the post though... merge in turn idiots annoy me too :mad:
 
rypt said:
Forget speed cameras, they don't solve anything.

What we need are merge in turn cameras, so that the ***holes who are incapable of this very simple concept get some nice fines!

There are roadworks going on en route from me to my GF's place, on a stretch of road between two roundabouts there is a sign informing you that in 500yards the right hand lane is closed.
To me, that means that at that point you merge in turn ... seems that no other driver on the road around me knows that. EVERY single car is queueing in the left hand lane (in almost stationary traffic).

So ... I'm happily driving down the right hand lane, at around the speedlimit (it's still 50mph as the 30 limit does not kick in until the point where the lanes merge).
I'm about to pass some builders truck (a proper truck, not a van/pickup) ... and the **** moves into the middle to block me. Causing me to emergency stop.
If my car wasn't light, with good tyres and decent brakes (that were warmed up) I'm not sure I would have stopped in time, as he made the move almost as I was level with the end of his truck.




So yer, can we have some good driving cameras please?
And why do people not comprehend how to merge in turn?
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I know exactly what you mean, I had a guy in a Mercedes Coupe do the same thing to me on my way to work a few years ago, which resulted in me doing a detour onto the grass verge as there was no way I was going to be able to stop. I parked my car, got out and stormed towards him, he promptly put his foot down and scampered. Must have been well funny as I'm the most weediest person in the world which to onlookers must have looked like pee-wee herman having road rage :)
 
The 2 lane merge into one on eastern road in portsmouth is a ****** nightmare, always the chancers looking to try it on when you let people in one for one, when I want to merge in, its always ****ers in riced cars who dont let you in or women who pretend they didnt notice you.
 
Amoeba said:
And if you weren't passing a queue of stationary traffic at 50mph you wouldn't have had to perform an emergency stop in the first place.
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Nothing wrong with doing the speedlimit past stationary traffic in the other lane
 
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I wouldn't do it, it only takes one idiot to pull out or open a door (if they're right on the centre line).

Where in Oxford is this, the bit coming into Bicester on the A41 by any chance?
 
Problem is merge in turn just doesn't work - if you get say 6 cars that have all been in the left lane within a 1/4 mile of each other they will all naturally stop in a nice line on the left, the next person who comes along - who say was a mile back when the queue formed - if they go out to the right to the front of the queue appears like queue jumping and it all just escalates from there and while some people don't care personally I feel really cheap using the right hand lane to pass 20 cars and then merge in turn at the end even tho thats how its supposed to be used.
 
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I agree with the principle of the OP – people just don't understand the concept, think you're queue jumping and try and stop you from merging.

There's a section on my commute home from work which goes from two lanes into one to go over a bridge. The left lane comes from one part of town and the right lane comes from another so it's not like people in the right lane are even trying to jump the queue but the amount of people who make things difficult is pretty appalling.

However, in the OP's situation, I would probably still have used the right lane but I would have been a bit more cautious rather than flying down it at 50.
 
A CCTV camera would do it; they could just link one up to an ANPR system for lane blocking with a simple programme to recognise lane/vehicle behaviour. You couldn’t just fine people who were sitting in the queue though. You would only target blocking / aggressive behaviour.

It is actually really simple to design and make, problem is the cost of development plus hardware isn’t really viable for something that may catch one or two people so non income generating. Not much you could do on a cost benefit analysis to justify and you can’t really justify on a safety / traffic management approach either.

Whilst it is hugely annoying and truck drivers should stop doing this, they do continue with it.
 
mrk1@1 said:
A CCTV camera would do it; they could just link one up to an ANPR system for lane blocking with a simple programme to recognise lane/vehicle behaviour. You couldn’t just fine people who were sitting in the queue though. You would only target blocking / aggressive behaviour.

It is actually really simple to design and make, problem is the cost of development plus hardware isn’t really viable for something that may catch one or two people so non income generating. Not much you could do on a cost benefit analysis to justify and you can’t really justify on a safety / traffic management approach either.

Whilst it is hugely annoying and truck drivers should stop doing this, they do continue with it.
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Problem is its 50/50 I can see why some people lane block when you get quite a few drivers who go all the way down the queue on the right and then try and push in right at the front all at the same time giving no way to people on the left either, just as bad as the people on the left who close ranks and don't let people in from the right.
 
Rroff said:
Problem is its 50/50 I can see why some people lane block when you get quite a few drivers who go all the way down the queue on the right and then try and push in right at the front all at the same time giving no way to people on the left either, just as bad as the people on the left who close ranks and don't let people in from the right.
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Er that is what merge in turn means, not sit in the left lane then block people who try to follow the traffic management.

It is not pushing in, simply people with a modicum of intelligence who can follow instructions.

Driver behaviour is a significant reason why we have so many traffic problems.

Reason it isn’t resolved is it isn’t really seen as an issue. In the grand scheme of things, a slow moving single file queue rather than a merge in turn facilitates a better / slower flow of traffic management through road works (which is preferable) rather than a well working merge in turn which can cause more vehicle conflicts.

The cost of driver education / management to reduce lane blocking and fix mergein turn is not viable, example being mobile phone use, despite it now being a prosecutable offence and all the public marketing campaigns people still do it. How much less effective would one be on merge in turn which only irritates.

You could improve the traffic management signs to something like Merge in Turn, Use Both Lanes, Do Not Block Traffic Passing on Right etc etc but even with better signing people still do it.

British love to queue.
 
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