Britain out of Ireland!

Theophany said:
On the face of it, even if we were (as wholly unlikely as it is) to forgo any claim on North Sea Oil, it still isn't viable.

The only way I could imagine it working is if an independent Scotland went down a Singapore/Irish fiscal route, whereby they whore themselves out as a foreign investment honeypot. But with stiff competition from the remainder of the UK speaking the same language, with a greater labour pool and better general infrastructure, they'd need to be offering mad tax incentives.

All conventional economic and business wisdom points to the fact that it would not be possible, at least not at any time in the near future.
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It would be viable, and Scotland is already an investment honeypot even with recent Westminster tax raids on our industries.




Theophany said:
Well the ONS is as close to the source as you'll get with any relative ease, the point that the data is not biased still stands though. As with any of these statistics we have to look just as much at what is not declared as what is, I'll make a point of looking at Scotland's own figures when I get a chance today.

That being said, I have looked a lot at the data and arguments on the issue (Scottish family and whatnot). I'm no expert on it, but I do have an awareness of the issues which should not discount what I've said thus far.
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The data is baised, it's routed through the formula and the figures are produced by the UK treasury. They are never going to reveal the true picture, and they currently do not.

It was purposefully entangled and confused to cloud the issue.

Your awareness is not greater than Scot's living here, again. For the last time.
 
I love that a thread about Irish nationalism has ended up with about a hundred posts of footballing pedantry. At least it means I've long since stopped caring about the earlier ill-informed opinions.

EDIT: Bloody hell, too slow! Now we're talking about Scottish independence instead.

Strife212 said:
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<3 this picture. Never get sick of it.
 
Biohazard said:
In the context of the picture, I think it's midly irrelevent calling the team British. It is obvious the young chap intends to evoke the Irish historical leanings in wearing it in that scenario..

Yes, it's samantics. But the kid isn't an idiot for wearing the top like the OP was mistaken about...
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Can we call the guy in the Manchester United shirt an idiot then?

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And if you are going to protest the Queen's visit - don't forget your packet of ham.
 
Biohazard said:
We can call that guy quoted above a bit of an idiot, but does it really matter?

Yes, I'm sure there is a lot of people here who want to represent everyone anti-British as idiots I'm sure it isn't the case however.
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Well I have yet to meet someone who was anti-British who wasn't a complete idiot.
 
spudbynight said:
Well I have yet to meet someone who was anti-British who wasn't a complete idiot.
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Says a bit more about you or the people you have met I can't help but feel.

I've met a lot of people who are politically anti-British and they are on the whole normal, intelligent people who just happen to dissagree with the status quo.
 
Biohazard said:
Yours, for the third time.



I'm sure your a wiz kid on everything you do Theophany, but your inference was wrong that you know better than the people in the situation in the first place.
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:confused:

I don't understand what you're on about. I state an opinion, clarify that I have read up on it and actually have some kind of understanding on what I'm debating, explicitly say "I'm no expert" and this is what you come up with?

You inferred, I didn't imply. Take a pill.
 
Biohazard said:
Says a bit more about you or the people you have met I can't help but feel.

I've met a lot of people who are politically anti-British and they are on the whole normal, intelligent people who just happen to dissagree with the status quo.
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I don't have a problem with anyone who believes in independence for their own country. However to be "anti-British" is as close to racist as you can get.
 
I dont actually think living in Scotland would gave anyone more information on whether an independent Scotland would work, the fact is theres too much that would have to be decided before anyone could make that call. Nationalists insist the North Sea oil is ours and base their workings on that, take that out of the equation and with the debt we would have its currently unworkable.
 
spudbynight said:
Can we call the guy in the Manchester United shirt an idiot then?

And if you are going to protest the Queen's visit - don't forget your packet of ham.
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Oh look, it's those mouth-breathing 32CSM spackers, that packet of Denny's ham he's holding has more intelligence than the entire organisation.
 
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