Strauss kahn accused of rape

Mr Krugga · 18 May 2011 at 12:56

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Strauss-Kahn#Allegations_of_sexual_misconduct

Obvious rapist is obvious.

I hope a BJ from a hot maid was worth his career.

I wonder why they release alleged rapists' names to the public. Surely it doesn't help the case.

Participant · 18 May 2011 at 13:03

Greebo said:
PS like my new sig Robbie G?

SB118 · 18 May 2011 at 13:04

Greebo said:
Seriously? Have your entire life turned upside down, maybe have a divorce with the fallout with the kids, lose your job, perhaps have to move as you cannot stay in the same area and that is acceptable if you were totally innocent and worth the price paying to get the people who are guilty?

Yes, it's worth it. It's one of the sacrifices that has to be made to ensure the safety of the public.

Strife212 · 18 May 2011 at 13:08

SB118 said:
But what if they guy is a serial rapist, who has scared his previous victims so badly that they won't come forward? Until they see he's done it to somebody else too, maybe now the police will believe them .....

Just because it will utterly destroy a persons life is no reason to protect their identity.

Makes no sense, what's that got to do with anonymity? If he was convicted before they would be able to see that anyway.

It would only be anonymous until proven guilty...

Cosimo · 18 May 2011 at 13:10

Robbie G said:
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That was rather a muted laugh. :D

SB118 · 18 May 2011 at 13:10

But what if he wasn't convicted before?

What if none of the previous victims were strong enough to make a complaint? What if seeing their attacker in the press accused of attacking somebody else gives them the strength to come forward, to know that they'll be taken seriously?

How much stronger is a case if their are 4 victims not 1 ?

Greebo · 18 May 2011 at 13:11

SB118 said:
Yes, it's worth it. It's one of the sacrifices that has to be made to ensure the safety of the public.

So you would accept this if it happened to you tomorrow? A false allegation of rape and you banged up with no bail?

It can so easily be fixed by keeping the name safe until proven guilty with no detrement to the liklehood of the accused been found guilty or innocent.

Tefal · 18 May 2011 at 13:13

SB118 said:
You have to think of the greater good, a persons career can recover in 6-7 years.

yeah the suicides can be undone too.

SB118 · 18 May 2011 at 13:13

I got bail, so it's not quite the same.

BunnyKillBot · 18 May 2011 at 13:15

SB118 said:
But what if he wasn't convicted before?

What if none of the previous victims were strong enough to make a complaint? What if seeing their attacker in the press accused of attacking somebody else gives them the strength to come forward, to know that they'll be taken seriously?

How much stronger is a case if their are 4 victims not 1 ?

1 with evidence (dna swabs, etc) and 3 without?

Testimonies are extremely weak evidences.

You can't say 'well if the evidence shows he did her, then he probably did those to'

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A prominant french national who has been incarcerated in the united states of america while being smeared with a sex offence so the french wont ask for him back. I am keeping my tin foil hat on for this one.

Tefal · 18 May 2011 at 13:16

SB118 said:
But what if he wasn't convicted before?

What if none of the previous victims were strong enough to make a complaint? What if seeing their attacker in the press accused of attacking somebody else gives them the strength to come forward, to know that they'll be taken seriously?

How much stronger is a case if their are 4 victims not 1 ?

equally then the accuser should be publicly outed, in case there's any one she has blackmailed etc but who gave in before she went to the police who could come forward and inform the world that she's done this type of thing before.

SB118 · 18 May 2011 at 13:23

The system is there to protect alleged rape victims, not vilify them.

Tefal · 18 May 2011 at 13:32

SB118 said:
The system is there to protect alleged rape victims, not vilify them.

they system is there to find the truth not vilify the accused and let extrajudicial punishment be placed on them by the media and mobs.

you say the accused must be publicised in case it lets other victims come forward.

then equally the accuser must have the same treatment po prevent thinsg like this happening

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-committed-suicide-falsely-accused-woman.html

So one man dead another mans name dragged though the mud, and his life runied for 7 months, and this woman is still anonymous and can do the same to others in future.

the victims are not always the accusers.

Von Smallhausen · 18 May 2011 at 13:43

naffa said:
She managed to pick out the head of the IMF from a line up?

With wang out, yes.

[TW]Fox · 18 May 2011 at 14:16

Been watching this on the news and I am as confused as many of you.

Here we have a guy who, like him or not, is undoubtedly very powerful and above all, very intelligent. You don't get to head up the IMF by being a bit dim. Couple this to the fact he is, or was, a favourite for the French presidency next year and it simply makes absolutely no sense whatsoever that he would risk so much in order to do 'something' to a random woman he had never met and would likely never meet again.

It just makes no sense. It isn't as if things got OTT after him and the woman got drunk in a bar. It isn't a close personal friend he wanted to go further with. It's... a random woman who came into his hotel room to change the sheets.

I mean what? He would have known that if she said anything, and of course there was almost no chance she wouldnt, his career and attempts to be president would be over.

And for this reason I simply don't buy it.

Biohazard · 18 May 2011 at 14:18

Von Smallhausen said:
With wang out, yes.

tefal said:
they system is there to find the truth not vilify the accused and let extrajudicial punishment be placed on them by the media and mobs.

you say the accused must be publicised in case it lets other victims come forward.

then equally the accuser must have the same treatment po prevent thinsg like this happening

So one man dead another mans name dragged though the mud, and his life runied for 7 months, and this woman is still anonymous and can do the same to others in future.

the victims are not always the accusers.

Hear hear.

[TW]Fox;19167059 said:
Been watching this on the news and I am as confused as many of you.

Here we have a guy who, like him or not, is undoubtedly very powerful and above all, very intelligent. You don't get to head up the IMF by being a bit dim. Couple this to the fact he is, or was, a favourite for the French presidency next year and it simply makes absolutely no sense whatsoever that he would risk so much in order to do 'something' to a random woman he had never met and would likely never meet again.

It just makes no sense. It isn't as if things got OTT after him and the woman got drunk in a bar. It isn't a close personal friend he wanted to go further with. It's... a random woman who came into his hotel room to change the sheets.

I mean what? He would have known that if she said anything, and of course there was almost no chance she wouldnt, his career and attempts to be president would be over.

And for this reason I simply don't buy it.

Not very often I see you give in to conspiracy.

I agree however, and the statements coming out from the US seem to be rather damning a bit too early. Can't help but think this is politically motivated, but time will tell.

Haggisman · 18 May 2011 at 14:56

SB118 said:
You have to think of the greater good, a persons career can recover in 6-7 years.

So say this weekend, you go out, meet a "nice" girl, get drunk together, have consenting sex, she wakes up in the morning, thinks "**** shouldn't have done that" decides to cry rape... your name gets released to the world, her dad/brothers/bf/etc come round smash up your house, threaten your family, you lose your job, friends, etc.

That's the greater good for you?

SB118 · 18 May 2011 at 15:31

No, the greater good is protecting other possible victims.

Biohazard · 18 May 2011 at 15:34

SB118 said:
No, the greater good is protecting other possible victims.

What if he is the victim?

Where is his protection?