To neuter or not to neuter a dog?

I think that if he's learnt that peeing on the carpet is OK, then neutering him isn't going to help much. We neutered ours at around 6 months when they were still getting used to the order of things. Don't know if it'd do much good now.

Though it would have other benefits - I imagine his aggression may well calm down though I've found that little dogs are often a bit snappy at times. It's the dogs' equivalent of Small Man Syndrome :)
 
Don't do it!

The peeing in the house thing almost certainly has nothing to do with the dog having 'nads. It'll probably continue after he's been snipped. Also, it does affect the dog's personality. My dog had to get snipped a few years ago for medical reasons and it affected him terribly. He's a lot more nervous than he was, less playful. It also affected how his fur grows. Before, his fur grew straight, but now it's wavy and somewhat coarser.

To stop the peeing, you quite simply need to train him better. Being aggressive over food, marking territory, that means he's still trying to be the Alpha Dog. You need to make it very clear to him that he is not the Alpha Dog, that he is at the bottom of the pack. When he pees in the house, hold his head down and rub his nose in the damp patch he just made. Then kick him out into the garden for half an hour. Dogs hate solitude, so kicking him out into the garden is an effective punishment and he'll quickly get the message. Shouting at him just gives him the attention he craves, so he'll keep doing it.
 
knip said:
We dont always catch him doing it, like I said he seems to sneak off, and sorry but there is no way I am going to start physically abusing my dog. :( Violence breeds violence, but thats not the point of this thread.
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There's abusing a dog and there's teaching it not to **** over everything. The number one cause of behavioural problems in dogs is due to owners that mollycoddle them. A dog is a dog is a dog.

If I had a kid and he was ****ing against furniture, he'd get a kick up the hole as well.
 
Brian8bit said:
There's abusing a dog and there's teaching it not to **** over everything. The number one cause of behavioural problems in dogs is due to owners that mollycoddle them. A dog is a dog is a dog.

If I had a kid and he was ****ing against furniture, he'd get a kick up the hole as well.
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Er no he shouldn't thats called child abuse. :rolleyes:
 
knip said:
Yeah but like the other night he peed in the bathroom, I happened to go in there (as you do) and saw he had peed, and that it was fairly recent, hence I called him in, and shouted at him. He knew he'd done something wrong because he does this whole tail between his legs cowering thing and looks very sorry for himself. :)
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That should be fine, it was just in case there were long gaps between the action and reaction as that would simply confuse the dog.

I can't say I'd be happy following the approach outlined by some in here for training the various dogs that my family has had but there's more than one way to skin that metaphorical cat I suppose. Usually a bit of thought about how to dissuade the dog has sufficed rather than simply going for the physical chastisement approach.
 
knip said:
Er no he shouldn't thats called child abuse. :rolleyes:
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Slapping your kid for ****ing on the furniture is not child abuse. Nor is slapping your dog for ****ing on the furniture animal abuse. But what do I know. It's not like my dad was a dog handler for the RAFp and he taught me how to raise dogs.

But continue in the mollycoddling of your dog. It clearly seems to be working well for you.
 
Brian8bit said:
Slapping your kid for ****ing on the furniture is not child abuse.
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Er, I work in childrens services, if we had a report someone had slapped their kid the social workers would be called in to investigate.

Im not derailing the thread any more.
 
Pro Tip, Knip: I wouldn't take the advice of anyone who's confusing dogs with children. Seems like that way madness lies, to me.

I've had a fair bit of experience with dogs, and as I've said, it's principally a dominance thing. Lobbing his nuts off will suppress the aggression, but you'll still need to make him understand that he's bottom of the pack. It can be hard, but it's best in the long run to sort it out as early as possible.
 
Just read the OP but thats not because he has his nuts, its because you (family) have failed to train him properly.

KaHn
 
KaHn said:
Just read the OP but thats not because he has his nuts, its because you (family) have failed to train him properly.

KaHn
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I wasnt here for the first 3 years (I only moved back home 18 months back) and so i've tried my best with him since then. He couldn't be off his lead until I spent the time teaching him.
 
Not sure this is the thread for you brian... :/

Knip - I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make. Ours was done early so nothing to compare it to. He's well behaved inside but it hasn't stopped him marking his territory outside, so I reckon it's down to training rather than whether he's neutered. We taught him to pee outside right from the start. When he was a pup we had a section of the kitchen fenced off for him, with a square of newspaper on the floor. Whenever it looked like he was going to pee (walking in circles, sniffing), we picked him up and ran to the kitchen, putting him on the paper! He'd then be rewarded if he went on the paper. We missed a few of course. Soon after, the paper went out the back door, and he quickly learnt to go outside. I think it was only a few weeks from peeing on the floor to not needing the paper...

Don't know how easy it will be to teach an older dog but good luck!

p.s... You're name is kinda appropriate..!
 
knip said:
I wasnt here for the first 3 years (I only moved back home 18 months back) and so i've tried my best with him since then. He couldn't be off his lead until I spent the time teaching him.
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Sorry like I said I didnt mean "you" as a person just those who have trained him, you comment of "violence breeds violence" is utter bull plop, if you look at the behaviour of dogs and the pack hierachy the top dog will "put down" other dogs with bites and domination.

This is where your boot comes in to play, the whole telling the dog off when you find pee is wrong, either catch him when he does it or dont bother.

KaHn

/edit :- One of the things I got told of my dad when i got max was that punishing with your dog should be done quickly and forgotten just as quickly. Animals dont hold grudges.
 
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he's only going to learn from stern teaching.. hitting a dog doesnt have to and shouldn't do damage, or lasting pain.. When i was training my dog, or when she does something wrong, i will tap/pinch her with extended fingers in a sort of claw arrangment on her body (sounds odd) it gets the message across as it surprises her and i guess it would feel like a very very light bite.. I can't see how you can (and not saying you have) teach a dog without physical contact. You dont have to "beat" a dog, but learn a technique that is quick and distracting. I wouldnt hit my dog, because that could cause damage.. i echo the thoughts that this doesnt sound like a cause for neutering, however it would be a consideration regardless

^^ kahn is right on it... you need to stop treating this dog like a child, it will become spoilt and annoying and yappy... yappy small dogs really annoy me, the owners (not directed at you) don't give them the discipline they need because they're smaller and "cute"
 
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KaHn said:
Sorry like I said I didnt mean "you" as a person just those who have trained him, you comment of "violence breeds violence" is utter bull plop, if you look at the behaviour of dogs and the pack hierachy the top dog will "put down" other dogs with bites and domination.

This is where your boot comes in to play, the whole telling the dog off when you find pee is wrong, either catch him when he does it or dont bother.

KaHn

/edit :- One of the things I got told of my dad when i got max was that punishing with your dog should be done quickly and forgotten just as quickly. Animals dont hold grudges.
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Aye, comes back to not treating your dog like a child and vice versa. Violence begets violence in humans - not in dogs. Sorry knip, but you're gonna have to give him a slap from time to time.
 
Get Cezar on the case! These attitude issues can be fixed, why neuter him?

You're lucky your mum didn't have your ideas when you were young!

- Oh he pees all over himself and his cot while we have a toilet and cries all the time, especially when it's time to eat, maybe I should neuter him!
 
kgi said:
Get Cezar on the case! These attitude issues can be fixed, why neuter him?

You're lucky your mum didn't have your ideas when you were young!

- Oh he pees all over himself and his cot while we have a toilet and cries all the time, especially when it's time to eat, maybe I should neuter him!
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"She", actually
 
No chance he's bad enough when he don't get his morning coffee never mind losing his beans ...
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I remember a CH4 / MoreFour programme last summer about badly behaved dogs. I'm sure in one episode they had a dog, similar to a Jack Russell, that would pee everywhere as soon as the owners left the house.

The solution, I can't remember, but there must have been one.
 
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