No Valve games at E3

Tefal said:
massively inferior, reusing content, rehashed, short and not particularly good.


I'm sorry i didn't bother to type out a small book just to paraphrase you.



They haven't said they're not making it though. and they never said a time frame, just "quicker".
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Again, I didn't say bad, so I'm not really sure what your problem is, you qouted a small amount more than the first time and I still didn't say bad.

Here's a hint, reusing GOOD content is better than reusing content from an epically rubbish game. The point is, if you're reusing half the content, it shouldn't take you as long to produce, seems pretty simple to me, this was half the point of episodic content. In which case, I'm not sure why ep 3 should take years longer. As they've essentially promised 3 quick fire "episodes" do that, or if you want to expand ep 3, move it to a new engine, make it a full game, whatever, tell people.

Update an engine, use it once, release a game 5 years later, need a completely new engine, or build engine, release one game, make much smaller parts of games on same engine thereby massively increasing the value of the time and effort put into the engine.

They haven't said they aren't making it, they haven't confirmed its coming, the point being we were told, essentially, the next game is coming as 3 episodes so we can do them closer together and get your more value for your content.

Klo said:
I certainly didn't buy Ep1 as part of a 3 part episodic series, I bought it under its own merit.

I think you just have issues (need a tissue?) :D
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Another person who can't read I assume. Look at what was writen in the post I replied too, the game was sold, no matter why YOU bought it, as a 3 part trilogy done in 3 episodes. If you bought it as a single part game, thats fine, I didn't say you didn't, or couldn't, but it was advertised and Valve at depth explained it would be 3 episodes.

Again, there is one story, its been chopped into 3 pieces, I feel like I have an unfinished game I've played 2 very average 3rd's of.

Again, the post I replied to was complaining about people who feel "owed" a sequel. I was explaining thats simply not the case, expecting a HL4 thats never been mentioned is wishful thinking, expecting the end to a game thats been talked about BY VALVE for I don't even know how long now is simply not the same thing.

Lets apply this elsewhere, how would people feel if Lotro 1, and 2 were made, then, they just decided not to do lotro 3 even though they said they would. You have a load of people who really want to see Lotro 3, were promised it, and ask where it is.

How would people feel if Mass Effect 3 never came out, would they feel "owed" the sequel, or is it wishful thinking.
 
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so what you're actually complaining about is they haven't given you an exact release ate.

As your ramblings are as if they intend not to release it.

Good lord you're a grown man have some patience.
 
Dem2k said:
:p

I bet they can count the $$$$$ steam is making for em
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steam was a fantastic gamble for them tough, it only really succeeded because unlike the other systems it had a major game to force people on board and drag them though the troublesome bigging steps, now most of it's customers are though that period or were never on board though it.

any new system still has to go though that and people will always go "why use this crap when steam is so much better" (see gfwl).

If it had failed though it would have cost them a fortune, so they need the Hl series to keep being top notch as it's their Bribe for any future difficulties.
 
FNGsam said:
+1 for 'Wes, Valve always put out quality games, how silly to say you won't purchase from them again because they haven't released Ep3/HL3 yet...

I'm dissapointed in you Garonazz tbh.
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i stopped buying valve games after ep2 tbh so is this silly ? :rolleyes: , why sell a game if your not going to finish it ? . valve have just got gready with steam tbh :(
 
Aod said:
I love Valve, because i appreciate the finer things and because i am patient.

they don't rush their games, so i know that when EP3/HL3 comes out, it won't be a buggy unplayable aborted foetus of a game, it will be a smooth and polished gaming experience that puts all other game studios to shame.
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I'm a big Valve fan too but when was the last time they said anything about there even being an episode 3? They did say something about a "surprise" in 2011, but that could be anything.
 
fini said:
Garonazz, what on earth are you talking about? The money making way would have just been to pump out HL3, HL4 and HL5 within 12 months of each other. As you said, HL is their flagship game and is thus guaranteed sales even if the game is just a video of Barney bouncing a ball. Releasing all these other games was the risky, not safe thing to do. New IP can flop entirely.
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Makes sense. HL3 for Christmas would be nice and doable?
 
SeeKified said:
A studio never "owes" a game to anybody, period. They do quite possibly have one of the most devoted fanbases of any industry, but they're still companies that need to make some decisions every now and then. Now, I'm by no means saying that Valve is in need of more money, I just think that Steam is much better a moneyspinner than a new Half-Life game, hence the intense focus on that.
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Quoted for truth.

Too many people throw their toys out the pram because they don't get what they want when they want it.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Another person who can't read I assume. Look at what was writen in the post I replied too, the game was sold, no matter why YOU bought it, as a 3 part trilogy done in 3 episodes. If you bought it as a single part game, thats fine, I didn't say you didn't, or couldn't, but it was advertised and Valve at depth explained it would be 3 episodes.
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I don't recall them promising 3 episodes in particular, I just remember them attempting 'Episodic gaming' and all hell broke loose when there seemed to be no sign of anything after Episode 2.

Lets apply this elsewhere, how would people feel if Lotro 1, and 2 were made, then, they just decided not to do lotro 3 even though they said they would. You have a load of people who really want to see Lotro 3, were promised it, and ask where it is.

How would people feel if Mass Effect 3 never came out, would they feel "owed" the sequel, or is it wishful thinking.
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Your comparisons are dumb. Lord of the Rings is a trilogy taken the book. Its not as if you're somehow missing out on something if they didn't create a 3rd game for it. As for Mass Effect 3, an ending to the story perhaps, but I wouldn't say ME has the most gripping of stories given that it was almost as if everything with the Reapers was sorted out in the first game, then it randomly carried on with 2.

Valve are not just going to suddenly skip the end that would be Episode 3 and move right on into a new story arc.
 
The way I see it, valve have been 'experimenting' with the source engine for HL3/EP3, with their recent games: Portal 2, L4D2, TF2 updates, CSS updates. These games have sneakily brought the engine more up to date to test the water for the next half-life game in my opinion. Of course that isn't the sole purpose of those games nor what the next half-life game will probably look like, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were to test certain things.

I like to think of the updates as being the foundation for building something bigger, which we currently await.;)
 
Can't see what all the fuss is over,ok hl2 and episodes 1&2 were good but were not epic,ep3 should have been out years ago on same engine then a new engine for hl3.


I do recall them promising 3 episodes,but that was years ago,i bet any money ep3 was nearly completed when 2 was out,ok its not the end of the world as there is many games better than the hl series imo.
 
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Are people seriously doubting that EP3/HL3 wont ever be released??

Why bother with little tie-ins such as the ones in Portal 2, If you are not going to bother carrying on the franchsie.

I know quite a few people on here will be too young to remeber when HL1 came out, It was phenomenal there was nothing else like it.

Then HL2 was released, again phenomenal and again nothing could touch the engine and IMO nothing has yet to date.

I think there are too many people influenced by games such as COD etc... where a new version is released bi-yearly.

When HL3/EP3 is released I expect it to turn game expectations on there head yet again.
 
MeEsH BaKkA said:
Are people seriously doubting that EP3/HL3 wont ever be released??

Why bother with little tie-ins such as the ones in Portal 2, If you are not going to bother carrying on the franchsie.
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This is a good point and I'm hoping it's true.

MeEsH BaKkA said:
When HL3/EP3 is released I expect it to turn game expectations on there head yet again.
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Indeed, potentially it could even be a whole new engine for HL3, maybe that's why it's taking so long and so shrouded in secrecy...
 
Why the need to keep saying 'LOL USRS BOII' etc just because im not happy with what a company is doing ? There's nothing wrong with not buying a product from a company if it fails to deliver, it's common sense. If you think im not being serious then it's you that's the troll here.

It's obvious Valve are making games inbetween HL because they want to, in a way, leave the idea of 'flagship game' and spread the popularity to others. This means they DONT HAVE TO release a new HL, which, like I said, Is a insult to HL fans.

Whats so strange in that ? Personally I feel like EP3 hype is like this Black Mesa mod. They keep saying they are working on it but they dont show ANYTHING related to it.

Unless I don't see any proper updates on the game/franchise then I wont care to spend my money on future games just as they dont care about their customers (Inb4 WHAT ABOUT PORTAL TUW LOL)

This is all my opinions so before you decide to troll, think about what Ive just said.

Also

'The money making way would have just been to pump out HL3, HL4 and HL5 within 12 months of each other.'

No way you're thinking that fini. No way anyone thinks that.

drunkenmaster said:
In which case, I'm not sure why ep 3 should take years longer. As they've essentially promised 3 quick fire "episodes" do that, or if you want to expand ep 3, move it to a new engine, make it a full game, whatever, tell people.
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This aswell.
 
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