New proposed driving laws for young drivers

why not have a licence restricting for young drivers?

Do it exactly the same as motorbikes,can drive up to say 1.2L with a a full licence for 2 years (then it will become un-restricted). Or after 21 you can take a full direct access test which means when you pass you can drive any car size you like.

That law might mean that young people could actually find affordable insurance!

edit: only just read the last post (its early) but my post still applies.
 
Jano said:
Is there a link between number of passengers and chance of crashing?
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Yes, because you wont be inclined to show off to your mates if you have no mates in the car to show off too. Also if you are in an accident there will only be you in the car and not 3/4 mates that die or go to hospital.
 
If you say so. Don't believe that one for a second. Next it'll be your not allowed a stereo because your more likely to drive like a tool if your musics on too loud.
 
no_1_dave said:
They already have this in some countries.
The first 2 years of driving if you are under 20 you are not allowed to drive after 11pm and you are only allowed 1 passenger.
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What impact did it have in those countries? Did it significantly alter accident statistics?
 
Hmm... is it that time again? Doesn't this get trotted out pretty much every year?

I can't see it happening, while younger drivers are more dangerous I don't see much advantage to these limits. All they will do is prevent the people who actually need their cars from using them effectively.
 
metbandit1 said:
why not have a licence restricting for young drivers?

Do it exactly the same as motorbikes,can drive up to say 1.2L with a a full licence for 2 years (then it will become un-restricted). Or after 21 you can take a full direct access test which means when you pass you can drive any car size you like.

That law might mean that young people could actually find affordable insurance!

edit: only just read the last post (its early) but my post still applies.
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Limiting engine size will never work.

In fact, I think young people in slow cars are probably more dangerous in many situations.

I remember my first car - a 1.2 Corsa that was so slow, I just didn't want to slow down for corners and have to wait a year for it to get back to speed again, so I took some corners way too fast, which led to a couple of lucky escapes.

My second car was a 150bhp+ Calibra, not massively fast, but it saw me slow down massively, as there was no need to take corners at a million miles an hour any more. Sure I did a few high speed runs to take advantage of the power, but I was capable of figuring out whether this was safe or not - the point is, driving was far less eventful.

I know many other people that followed a similar trend, too.

One way to do it would be to 'black box' a youngsters car, where it could record traffic offences and bad driving - a certain number of "offences" accumulated lead to punishment of some kind, be it a visit from the police for something minor, points, or even a 14 day ban depending on how many punishments you've had, or the severity of the offences - if the driver could be made aware of these offences, I think it'd do a much better job of making them drive more sensibly.
 
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metbandit1 said:
why not have a licence restricting for young drivers?

Do it exactly the same as motorbikes,can drive up to say 1.2L with a a full licence for 2 years (then it will become un-restricted). Or after 21 you can take a full direct access test which means when you pass you can drive any car size you like.

That law might mean that young people could actually find affordable insurance!

edit: only just read the last post (its early) but my post still applies.
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In what way will that help?
a 1.2 can still go fast, probably less safe than something bigger.
Also, plenty of small engined turbos around these days, kinda negates your want for a small engine restriction.

On top of that, what if the new driver needs an estate or an MPV. Should they also be restricted to a 1/1.2? I'd hope not as I can't think of any with small engines.
 
possibly instead of a restriction there should be some kind of car class that would give young drivers cheap insurence. I keep getting quotes on KAs for like £2500 full comp. Its crazy when 19. -_-

Seemed to work for my bike licences that my insurance has been around £700-800 over 3 years, between a restricted to de-restricted 600cc bike.
 
Driving in on the decline in the UK. We could well be past the peak of the personal motor car already.

Something weird is happening," says Phil Goodwin, professor of transport policy at the University of the West of England. "Car use in Britain is on the decline, but no one is exactly sure why." Goodwin says we have reached "peak car". If he is right, this has important implications for how we design our towns and cities, and where public money gets allocated.

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Between 1992 and 2007, the number of 17- to 20-year-olds who held licences fell from 48 per cent to 38 per cent, and for 21- to 29-year-olds, the number fell from 75 per cent to 66 per cent. Also, there has been a decline in private transport's share of trips from 50 per cent in 1993 to 41 per cent in 2008. And, according to Lynn Sloman, director of Transport for Quality of Life, between 2004 and 2008, car trips per person went down by 9 per cent and car distance per person by 5 per cent.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/features/is-this-the-end-of-the-car-2286616.html
 
metbandit1 said:
why not have a licence restricting for young drivers?

Do it exactly the same as motorbikes,can drive up to say 1.2L with a a full licence for 2 years (then it will become un-restricted). Or after 21 you can take a full direct access test which means when you pass you can drive any car size you like.

That law might mean that young people could actually find affordable insurance!

edit: only just read the last post (its early) but my post still applies.
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You would need to restrict it to BHP rather than engine capacity. A 1.2 TSI Polo has 105BHP and isn't all that slow.

On top of that, it's a bit of a crap restriction. A Mondeo comes with a 1.8L engine as the smallest, yet I'd rather see a younger driver in that than say a 1.3T Starlet.
 
Maybe bring in an indication section for women while we are at it as they seem to not know when and where to use them ;)

In all honestly when i am driving around I seem to have more problems with the older driver than the younger ones.
 
andrewdodd13 said:
You would need to restrict it to BHP rather than engine capacity. A 1.2 TSI Polo has 105BHP and isn't all that slow.

On top of that, it's a bit of a crap restriction. A Mondeo comes with a 1.8L engine as the smallest, yet I'd rather see a younger driver in that than say a 1.3T Starlet.
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Think a BHP restriction would work better than engine size then?

say 120BHP? or 105BHP? something like that.

Considering they do passats with 105bhp engines.
 
metbandit1 said:
Think a BHP restriction would work better than engine size then?

say 120BHP? or 105BHP? something like that.

Considering they do passats with 105bhp engines.
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Nope, it wouldn't work at all the more I think about it. A 137BHP Starlet is just over 120, and it has a 0-60 of ~7 seconds.

Hell. I was driving behind this massively tricked out pre-facelift Corsa B the other day, driving like a menace. We're talking 15" alloys, tinted windows, plastic body kits.

My mate did a quick reg plate check. 3-cylinder 1 litre. 58BHP.
 
These laws, all about restricting freedom and making money. Sweet F A to do with safety. They just jump on that bandwagon just to justify it.

Totally **** IMO.
 
andrewdodd13 said:
Nope, it wouldn't work at all the more I think about it. A 137BHP Starlet is just over 120, and it has a 0-60 of ~7 seconds.

Hell. I was driving behind this massively tricked out pre-facelift Corsa B the other day, driving like a menace. We're talking 15" alloys, tinted windows, plastic body kits.

My mate did a quick reg plate check. 3-cylinder 1 litre. 58BHP.
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ok maybe not the best idea then....

i wish they actually made a car which is dirt cheap to insure.

even a smart car with a 600cc engine is over 2k to insure!
 
I agree with BRAKE and think we should go further.

Ban all new drivers.
Ban cars that can do over 70mph.
Ban all people of 60.
Ban all women drivers.
Put average speed cameras across the whole road network.

Remember, this could save many thousands of lives and would not cost anything to implement or cause any problems for anyone!!!!

Safety first is the only way!
 
-Ad- said:
I agree with BRAKE and think we should go further.

Ban all new drivers.
Ban cars that can do over 70mph.
Ban all people of 60.
Ban all women drivers.
Put average speed cameras across the whole road network.

Remember, this could save many thousands of lives and would not cost anything to implement or cause any problems for anyone!!!!

Safety first is the only way!
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LOL, so nothing then?
 
Everyone but me has caused my insurance premium to increase. I'm annoyed.
 
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