Messed up at work, need advice...

Seems like a clear cut opportunity to point out exactly what is wrong with how they are doing things and suggest a clear and superior alternative. Mention profits in there somewhere and you will probably get a pay rise.
 
Pukka up, you obviously know of your mistake, have accepted it, your boss's have seen this and will take it into heavy consideration before thinking of anything further than a verbal warning.

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That's nothing. I found out before I left my last job that my immediate boss read most of everyones emails without consent. Totally wrong and immoral, but I had some fun with the knowledge

OP, personally I wouldn't go in with either a groveling apology or on the defensive, keep your options open and think on your feet. See what happens and don't be afraid to bend over should needs be ;)
 
d_brennen said:
I found out before I left my last job that my immediate boss read most of everyones emails without consent. Totally wrong and immoral, but I had some fun with the knowledge
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It may be wrong on an moral level, but its perfectly legal, the emails belong to the company.

edit: And with regards to consent, its probably stated in the staff handbook/IT security policy.
 
Nice to read one of these threads where someone accepts what they've done is wrong, instead of jumping on the defensive from the on set. Good on you.

As others have said, I would approach this with an apologetic and respectful manner. Given the approach you've taken so far I'm pretty sure this is what you're going to do.

The saving grace is that your n+3 boss is probably far too busy to be making a big deal of this, and given you've already had two dressing downs so far will probably give you a fatherly talking to, use the word disappointed and leave you with a feeling of remorse whilst being quite nice about it.

If he doesn't, pipe a turd out on his desk. You know it makes sense.
 
vonhelmet said:
I checked out the virus threat, and it was a fake one, and the Symantec website had a page about it. For some reason I decided to send an email back, replying to all, to say that it was a fake, and that it was a waste of everyone's time to be sending it to everyone, that it could be trivially checked whether it was legit or not, and that in any case the best people to relay such a thing to would be the IT staff.
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And that is exactly how it should be done. Bravo :)

As for your current situation I can sympathise. My only advice would be to go in there, head held high, maintain eye contact and although you may not feel it try and sound sincere when apologising. Let him speak and try not to interrupt. He may even give you chance to explain yourself fully, if so, you can use that as an opportunity to speak openly in a calm and collected way about the system and related problems. He might see you in a different light after that and think "Hang on a minute, perhaps he's right, we need to seriously sort this mess out" instead of thinking it was all just hot air and things aren't that bad. Your immediate boss may not be giving him the whole picture.

Good luck out there buddy! You're gonna need it *drops crowbar* :p
 
eatcustard said:
So much gayness here.

Tell they why is rubbish and man up, I do and its never hurt me.
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I definitely would not 'defend' what you said. I would be very apologetic and thoroughly expect to get an ear full of why you don't do what you did. You sound like you understand what you did was wrong (whether you are justified on what you said is another matter, but I'd expect the meeting to be around the way you went about it).

If it was me I'd just be honest and say what you said on here. You are very sorry, re-iterate it was an accident, it was meant to be a tounge in cheek comment to one colleague and you completely understand what 'damage' careless comments like that can do, etc etc.

Just make sure they know it wasn't intentional and hope for the best in my opinion.
 
Just say whatever sorry, get over it i spose be humble.... If you want.

I sent an email to 900 odd people at Uni saying how a mate of mine violated me and touched my special place... I got pulled in by the IT department, it went to staff members and everything.... I had my computer privileges removed for a month and asked if i needed a therapist to help me get over my ordeal... i was biting my lip to not burst out laughing.
 
Efour2 said:
Just say whatever sorry, get over it i spose be humble.... If you want.

I sent an email to 900 odd people at Uni saying how a mate of mine violated me and touched my special place... I got pulled in by the IT department, it went to staff members and everything.... I had my computer privileges removed for a month and asked if i needed a therapist to help me get over my ordeal... i was biting my lip to not burst out laughing.
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Enjoyed it then? All's well that ends well :)
 
Thanks all. Seems as though my original plan is the way to go. He's accepted the meeting request and naturally I'm now bricking it.

My boss said the words "If you think we've given you a bollocking, that is NOTHING compared to what Mr XXX is going to be like, so be prepared"

This is like going to the headmasters office when you're at school. :(
 
Matt-Page said:
Thanks all. Seems as though my original plan is the way to go. He's accepted the meeting request and naturally I'm now bricking it.

My boss said the words "If you think we've given you a bollocking, that is NOTHING compared to what Mr XXX is going to be like, so be prepared"

This is like going to the headmasters office when you're at school. :(
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Fact is, you're NOT at ******* school. It's a professional environment, and you should expect to be spoken to like a professional.

A dressing down is all well and good... a belittling bollocking that makes you feel 5 years old again, is not.

All you can do is apologise for what you said and explain yourself clearly, without being defensive. Accept the criticism and whatever is levelled at you but do NOT bend over and take all kinds of finger pointing and shouting like some little bitch.

I sure as hell wouldn't, and if any manager, CEO or not, tried to speak to me like anything less than a colleague I'd be out the door just as quickly as I can rip their own self esteem to shreds.
 
Matt-Page said:
Thanks all. Seems as though my original plan is the way to go. He's accepted the meeting request and naturally I'm now bricking it.

My boss said the words "If you think we've given you a bollocking, that is NOTHING compared to what Mr XXX is going to be like, so be prepared"

This is like going to the headmasters office when you're at school. :(
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Good luck Sir. This sounds pretty unprofessional as well.. Small company ? tell them to F off
 
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