Who has Keyless Entry in their car?

Raymond Lin

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Apologies for another Noobs car thread lol

Anyone got these on their car? Just been thinking as my Yaris will come with this and wondering what is stopping someone just walk up to my car and drive away in it?

As my car will be park on the drive next to my house, I googled and apparently the proximity of USA and Europe is 20m for keyless entry and 5m for Japan. 20m is way too close for me and unless the brick wall can stop the transmission? But what about the window?!

I am just curious if any of you tried to get into your car with the keyfob still in the house?

Or I guess the solution is to buy a little box made of solid lead and put the keyfob in it whilst at home? lol
 
Got this on my MK7 Fiesta. Fortunately there are internal proximity sensors too so even if the doors are unlocked, the car won't start without the key physically inside the car itself. I've had a play around with it and held the key out of the window while sat in the driver's seat and get a "key not detected" message.

Edit: Upon reading Fox's post below I should probably clarify that mine has keyless entry as well as keyless start. This means I can unlock the car using the keyfob as is standard with just about every car now and also, as long as the key is in close proximity to the car you can use a button on the door handle to unlock. In addition, as long as the key is inside the car, even if it's in my pocket, I can start the car with the button.
 
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Are you sure you've got this right?

Keyless Entry is simply remote locking - ie you dont use a physical key in a lock to open the door. You press a button on the fob.

What you've described is often called things like Comfort Access, where you dont need to use the keyfob to open the car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyless_entry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_key

As you can see, Toyota call the Comfort Access type system 'Smart Key' not 'Keyless Entry', so I suspect it's just normal remote locking.
 
Looking at the car pics it has no ignition barrel so doesn't need to turn a key to start the car.

I'd find it odd if they fitted that system but didn't bother to install keyless entry (as in you walk up to the car and it unlocks the door for you).
 
Obviously if one need to actually press the unlock button on the keyfob then you don't have a problem.

Lets for the sake of argument, you have "Comfort Access", then how do you stop someone driving off?

Or even if the engine cuts out after X yards or has internal sensor to stop engine starting, the door will always be open if yuo are close enough? What's stopping some opportunities to go in and go through the glove compartment, take a nap in the car at night etc?
 
With the Mercedes "Keyless-go" system;

The car will not start without the fob being physically inside the car, so although mine appears to have a range of around 10m for the lock/unlock, it will never be drivable unless the person has the fob on them. I also do not find that the locking operates from within the house, i am guessing the external wall or window of the house blocks the signal fairly effectively.

Also note that you have to put your hand on the handle for the door to unlock, it doesnt unlock/lock purely when the fob goes in range. When you lock the car using the lock button on the handle, the car is deadlocked, so nobody could be hidden inside without being trapped :p

While it all sounds complicated, it isnt in practice. It is a very good and nice feature which tbh i think all cars should be fitted with beyond base spec models. The technology behind it must cost pennies.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
Or even if the engine cuts out after X yards or has internal sensor to stop engine starting, the door will always be open if yuo are close enough? What's stopping some opportunities to go in and go through the glove compartment, take a nap in the car at night etc?
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Who gave you a figure of 20m? I've done some testing on a 2009 Focus ST and it's more like 4m in open air.
 
I had comfort access on the cayenne, was annoying, quite often in traffic it would complain the key wasn't in the car and start gonging and complaining, this always lead to me have a frantic fumble (ooohh er) to find the bloody keys.

It also meant if I walked past my car for a fag it would greet me with a beaming headlight smile, which was heart warming to start with after while it was a bit pretentious and a bit like a clingy bird you have no interest in after a quickie in the toilets.
 
Will Gill said:
I had comfort access on the cayenne, was annoying, quite often in traffic it would complain the key wasn't in the car and start gonging and complaining, this always lead to me have a frantic fumble (ooohh er) to find the bloody keys.

It also meant if I walked past my car for a fag it would greet me with a beaming headlight smile, which was heart warming to start with after while it was a bit pretentious and a bit like a clingy bird you have no interest in after a quickie in the toilets.
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Genuine lol. I find personification of cars impossible to avoid. Wish I had OPs worries, just getting mine to start is a win :(
 
My first car was a Rover 800. Mmmmm - nice. Anyway - I lost both keys, so I had to break in and remove the steering lock. After that I just left it unlocked and started it with a screwdriver. Total keyless system. Was awesome.

Does that count? :)
 
I had a Suzuki swift for a few months last year which had complete keyless entry/start. You walked up to the car and touched a small rubber thingy on the handle and it unlocked, then you just turned a fake key that was moulded into the ignition barrel. The idea is you just walk away from the car and it locks after a certain distance, which always results in you walking back to the car to make sure if the bloody thing actually locked. Pointless gimmick imo, nothing wrong with an old fasioned key, especially as you have to carry a key around with you anyway!
 
The one on the Renault is ok, you walk up to the car with the key in your pocket and as soon as you put your hand near door handle it unlocks, also starts without the card in the slot.
 
alexisonfire said:
I had a Suzuki swift for a few months last year which had complete keyless entry/start. You walked up to the car and touched a small rubber thingy on the handle and it unlocked, then you just turned a fake key that was moulded into the ignition barrel. The idea is you just walk away from the car and it locks after a certain distance, which always results in you walking back to the car to make sure if the bloody thing actually locked. Pointless gimmick imo, nothing wrong with an old fasioned key, especially as you have to carry a key around with you anyway!
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It doesn't lock once you walk away, You have to lock it with the silly fob, (I know this as I've gone shopping and come back to a unlocked car because I forgot to press the button on fob)

In my experience the key has to be right next to the car for you to open it, and my key actually has to be inside the car for you to start it... Not sure how, but I can't stand at the open drivers door and start the car, The key has to be inside.

I don't like the system myself and find it pointless lol, One more thing to go wrong in future.
 
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Hi, it cannot be done without the key inside the car to de-activate the imobiliser and the steering lock so Clarkson was talking bs if he didn't have it, no suprise there then. The electronic steering lock seems to have been forgotten, on my car it will be deactivated when I get into the car, however if I don't start it within a certain length of time it is reactivated again and only deactivated if I press the start button. I have not heard of any car being stolen due to keyless entry, another thing missed is that any remote unlocking usually relocks itself after a short length of time if the door handles aren't operated....
Chris
 
Clarkson also made out that when he walked away from his mercedes that he had to trust it to lock, and then when he walked back it wasnt - which it wouldnt be of course, which isnt how it works, you lock it from the lock button on the door handle, and unlock it by passing your hand near the handle. The cars dont lock and unlock as the fob goes in and out of range. Great presenter but a lot of the information is for entertainment purposes only :p
 
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