What makes someone a car enthusiast?

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It's raining here so I can't tinker outside, so instead I've got a philosophical question for you: What makes someone a true car enthusiast?

I have friends who love watching F1, talking about cars, tinkering with cars and playing racing games, but have no driving licences, but on the flip-side I have friends who enjoy a drive almost as much as I do, but wouldn't have a clue how to top up the oil in their cars.

Personally I would suggest that no-one who likes only one brand or scene and "knows" everything else is inferior could possibly be a true enthusiast. I fully admit I don't understand the appeal of some cars, but I'd never hate/abuse you for owning a car I don't see the appeal of.

This Datsun(?), for example:

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I have no idea what model it is, but I have a huge amount of respect for the effort that's been put into it.

To me the acid test is your reaction to a thread on a car you're not familiar with: Someone wedging a Jag V12 in an MGB, a V8 into a W115, a hot-rod, a completely standard, brown Austin Princess or a brand new Insignia VXR. You may not want to own one yourself, but if you can see why someone would, and appreciate the car for that then to me, you are a car enthusiast.

An example: Someone who collects priceless Ferrari's isn't necessarily a car enthusiast, but Jay Leno does, and is. Each of his cars is equally valuable to him, some he was given/saved from the scrappy and have little "real" worth, and some cost millions.

Top Gear insists it's that you have to have owned an Alfa Romeo, but does that mean I'm not a car enthusiast because I haven't gotten round to ticking that box yet? (It's on the list, don't worry)

I've also noticed that, despite it being rubbish in very, very many ways, I still smile every time I catch a glimpse of my car on the drive.

So what do the fine guys and girls of motors think? What makes a car enthusiast?
 
Somebody who is enthusiastic about one or more aspects of cars and car ownership. It's that simple.

If somebody is nuts about a crappy Golf and hates everything else it doesnt mean he's not a car enthusiast, does it? What is he instead, a Tennis Enthusiast?
 
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If somebody is nuts about a crappy Golf and hates everything else it doesnt mean he's not a car enthusiast, does it? What is he instead, a Tennis Enthusiast?

It makes him a Golf enthusiast. Not a car enthusiast.
 
This is what smoking to early in the morning does for a Dude, Be warned Kids.

Op.
Stop thinking so much nobody uses the word enthusiast anyways. :p
 
To me the acid test is your reaction to a thread on a car you're not familiar with: Someone wedging a Jag V12 in an MGB, a V8 into a W115, a hot-rod, a completely standard, brown Austin Princess or a brand new Insignia VXR. You may not want to own one yourself, but if you can see why someone would, and appreciate the car for that then to me, you are a car enthusiast.

What about this then?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-FIESTA-S...omobiles_UK&hash=item27bb47ab06#ht_500wt_1156

Am I not a car enthusiast because I think that looks horrid and I can't imagine why anyone would put so much time, money and effort into creating such a turd? :confused:

I don't like it. I don't understand it. It's just ****.
 
This is what smoking to early in the morning does for a Dude, Be warned Kids.

Op.
Stop thinking so much nobody uses the word enthusiast anyways. :p

Sorry, this was triggered by, amongst other things, by the "Am I right to dismiss all FWD cars thread" as well as observing the differences between owners forums and more general forums.

What about this then?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-FIESTA-S...omobiles_UK&hash=item27bb47ab06#ht_500wt_1156

Am I not a car enthusiast because I think that looks horrid and I can't imagine why anyone would put so much time, money and effort into creating such a turd? :confused:

I don't like it. I don't understand it. It's just ****.

Touché :p

I agree with you, its not my thing, but I'm not going to insult him or his car, it's his expression of what a car should be.

You of all people should understand what I'm on about? The Soarer, to a lot of people on here is the same as that Fiesta - rubbish, old and inferior to something more modern, but to you its the perfect car for you right now (Or was when you bought it). I read your comments on it with interest because I have no experience of one and am keen not to dismiss it out of hand.

*EDIT* If that ad is correct then I have some serious respect for the guy "full stainless steel bodykit". That must have taken some serious fabricating skills by someone
 
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You of all people should understand what I'm on about? The Soarer, to a lot of people on here is the same as that Fiesta - rubbish, old and inferior to something more modern, but to you its the perfect car for you right now (Or was when you bought it). I read your comments on it with interest because I have no experience of one and am keen not to dismiss it out of hand.

To be fair, not really.

I know that some people here think my car is **** but I wouldn't question them being car enthusiasts just because they didn't understand why I enjoy my car, just like I wouldn't expect them to question why I'd keep it over a 20 year old newer 1.4 Golf all day long.
 
That fiesta is a pile of horse manure. Does that make me a car enthusiast :)

I plan to own some more sprightly cars when I leave uni, maybe i'll be one then.
 
That fiesta is a pile of horse manure. Does that make me a car enthusiast :)

I plan to own some more sprightly cars when I leave uni, maybe i'll be one then.
the reasons why its horse manure, is usually indicative of whether you are an enthusiast or not :p

i personally see no fascination with these, but thats another chapter ;)
 
It makes him a blinded fanboy, something that plagues marque specific forums

That's something I've noticed too. Somewhere like here or RR seems to attract less fanboys, or at least there isn't the argument over what's best.

the reasons why its horse manure, is usually indicative of whether you are an enthusiast or not :p

Good point.

If its not a tolerance of other peoples cars then what is it?

Buying a car with your heart?

Working on your own car?

Is it dependent on what car you own? I don't this so.
 
Good point.

If its not a tolerance of other peoples cars then what is it?

Buying a car with your heart?

Working on your own car?

Is it dependent on what car you own? I don't this so.
its mainly the elements you consider to form an opinion.

i.e. a fiesta st is slow to most enthusiasts for xyz reasons, but to average joe the fact a small car has a 2.0l engine is enough to make him think its fast.
 
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To be fair, not really.

I know that some people here think my car is **** but I wouldn't question them being car enthusiasts just because they didn't understand why I enjoy my car, just like I wouldn't expect them to question why I'd keep it over a 20 year old newer 1.4 Golf all day long.
Really?? I can understand why you enjoy your car. Unlike most people on here I don't find you owning a Soarer and actually enjoying it that weird :p. Yea you go on about it far too much but I appreciate you have an interesting and unusual car that probably performs better than 80% of other stuff knocking about. If a car 'enthusiast' can't understand that then yes I would question his 'enthusiasm' for cars :p.
 
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