New MG restricted to 120mph, gets lower group rating, thoughts?

[TW]Fox · 30 May 2011 at 21:26

Joshy said:
But yet you'd be happy to smash into a 100MPH limiter if you needed the extra few MPH to make a save overtake?

I don't think its appropriate to be the wrong side of 100mph tbh.

Sin_Chase · 30 May 2011 at 21:30

I don't see how any restriction that is not 70MPH or lower would lower insurance, seeing as there is no legal way to do more than that on public roads in the UK.

Is it not basically saying...we know you are breaking the speed limits, but we will insure you for less if it's under 100mph? :confused:

Meridian · 30 May 2011 at 21:31

dmpoole said:
The times I play the tortoise & hare so I decide to overtake several vehicles on an A road, speed off and then 10 minutes up the road they all pull up behind me.

Yes, but sometimes they don't. But either way, for a little while it's your destiny, not someone else's

M

Joshy · 30 May 2011 at 21:31

[TW]Fox;19259545 said:
I don't think its appropriate to be the wrong side of 100mph tbh.

Even if you might have misjudged an overtake are are on the wrong wide of the road with a rapidly approaching vehicle in the on coming lane? There's too many 'What ifs' to make this make sense.

Given the choice between going over 100MPH or potentially not making an overtake, I'll go with not ending up in a hospital bed/morgue everytime

Sin_Chase · 30 May 2011 at 21:32

[TW]Fox;19259545 said:
I don't think its appropriate to be the wrong side of 100mph tbh.

100mph in itself is hardly the epitome of inappropriateness. Depends where and when.

What's the difference between 95 and 105 from a risk perspective and why is 100 the magic marker?

[TW]Fox · 30 May 2011 at 21:32

I cannot remember ever misjudging an overtake to such an extent I needed to accelerate over 100mph to sort it out.

Having seen you overtake I can see why you might find yourself in that situation, though

Kenai · 30 May 2011 at 21:34

If you need to be breaking 100mph or you might not make your overtake, you really ought to be thinking twice about whether your ability to judge appropriate places and gaps for overtakes is as good as it ought to be.

Sin_Chase · 30 May 2011 at 21:34

I overtake as you do Fox, or claimed to. Foot in the floor till I am past basically. The chances of me hitting 100mph are slim but if I did so then so be it. No chance of that ever happening here though. The only chances you can overtake here are when they are bumbling along at 15-25 MPH. So 40MPH is all you need to get past

Joshy · 30 May 2011 at 21:37

[TW]Fox;19259590 said:
Having seen you overtake I can see why you might find yourself in that situation, though

Hey! I'm a city slicker. We don't really do overtaking in London

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Fett · 30 May 2011 at 21:38

Simon said:
No as it would limit progress on welsh roads. I like 4-5 car overtake moves.

Absolutely.

Sin_Chase · 30 May 2011 at 21:40

4-5 Car overtakes. AKA The S59 Roulette?

lordrobs · 30 May 2011 at 21:40

Joshy said:
Even if you might have misjudged an overtake are are on the wrong wide of the road with a rapidly approaching vehicle in the on coming lane? There's too many 'What ifs' to make this make sense.

Given the choice between going over 100MPH or potentially not making an overtake, I'll go with not ending up in a hospital bed/morgue everytime

If it was getting that close I think my natural reaction of soiling my pants and jumping on the brakes would kick in rather than sitting back and thinking "meh, 110 and I'll be sweet" :eek:

I must admit that I'm not the greatest fan of wrong side overtakes (the memory of my dad throwing our old Volvo onto the grass verge to avoid an XR3i on the wrong side of the road coming towards us as a kid is pretty imprinted on my brain) so when I do perform them it is a case of dropping into whatever gear will give me the best acceleration and then it is foot to the floor. Not a problem in our Punto, in my car though I often pull in, glance down and think "oops"

Fett · 30 May 2011 at 21:55

Sin_Chase said:
4-5 Car overtakes. AKA The S59 Roulette?

You have to make sure there's an unmarked car in the queue to play

The A470 is a prime example, tourists and caravan convoys, you can easily hit 100+ during an overtake. Not a case of misjudging anything.

SexyGreyFox · 30 May 2011 at 22:07

Meridian said:
Yes, but sometimes they don't. But either way, for a little while it's your destiny, not someone else's

M

I remember watching a BBC documentary quite a few years ago where 4 cars were setup with large A, B, C & D on their roofs.
They went on the motorway for 1 hour and car A could only stay in the 1st lane, B in lane 2, C in the outside lane and D could go anywhere.
At the end of the hour D won by about 30 seconds and the difference between D and A was about 2 minutes over the hour.
I don't know why I bother being a C or mostly D and breaking the law some of the time.

PMKeates · 30 May 2011 at 22:22

dmpoole said:
At the end of the hour D won by about 30 seconds and the difference between D and A was about 2 minutes over the hour.

But how fast could each car go? If it was a 70 MPH limit then sure enough, that seems about reasonable. If it was unlimited speed then I'd bet D would get there much faster.

Sin_Chase · 30 May 2011 at 22:34

dmpoole said:
I don't know why I bother being a C or mostly D and breaking the law some of the time.

It's more fun?

Simon · 30 May 2011 at 23:43

Fett said:
You have to make sure there's an unmarked car in the queue to play

The A470 is a prime example, tourists and caravan convoys, you can easily hit 100+ during an overtake. Not a case of misjudging anything.

Exactly, none have the ability to overtake one another yet they drive right behind each other leaving no gaps.

You need a fast car, often with a run up to, to be able to pass them all safely. Here 100mph is sometimes breached for a quicker overtake.

Sure it's probably not as safe as just sitting behind them but I think the people who seem to be picking my driving apart have never driven a half fast (but very good around corners) car on welsh roads over a bank holiday.

[TW]Fox · 30 May 2011 at 23:44

Nothing rages me more than 5 slow people sitting an inch from the car in front. If you want to drive slow thats totally fine with me - but please leave a sensible gap so people can safely overtaking without having to take 5 at once.

Simon · 30 May 2011 at 23:45

dmpoole said:
I remember watching a BBC documentary quite a few years ago where 4 cars were setup with large A, B, C & D on their roofs.
They went on the motorway for 1 hour and car A could only stay in the 1st lane, B in lane 2, C in the outside lane and D could go anywhere.
At the end of the hour D won by about 30 seconds and the difference between D and A was about 2 minutes over the hour.
I don't know why I bother being a C or mostly D and breaking the law some of the time.

A motorway is a bit different to a caravan towing car vs sports car on twisty roads. Easy 25% quicker without breaking the speed limit

Simon · 30 May 2011 at 23:47

[TW]Fox;19260492 said:
Nothing rages me more than 5 slow people sitting an inch from the car in front. If you want to drive slow thats totally fine with me - but please leave a sensible gap so people can safely overtaking without having to take 5 at once.

Exactly. Hence the need for 100+ overtakes, got to do the lot before a bend. Plus it's all or nothing as it's difficult to force a gap (i know from experience - playing it 'safe'.)