Landlord and mahooosive leccy bill
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Crystalline ones and however many it takes to generate 4kwp which is apparently the maximum I am allowed to produce.
As I have significant roof space on my Garage we can use the less efficient panels which are larger and so save a few quid. Overall cost is around £12k and we are just waiting for the permissions needed. Should start to be installed in about a month we have been told.
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Out of interest, do you have the space/wind to put a turbine in? If you have you should look into it, for that sort of money you could get a wind turbine and be paid rather than be neutral.
Good move. My folks got theirs last year, it's been fantastic. 4 kWp isn't the maximum, just the FiT payment is lower for larger installs so it's not such good value to put in more.
Load of additional hassles with wind, much better off with PV on the small scale.
£60 a month for 4 people?? hah. work it out.. 1200 over 2years is +50 a month more in electric. your bills should have been £110/month. id expect 1 person to use £30 a month, x4 = 120.
if the boiler was super heating the water constantly for 2years, then you would have been scalded from using the hot tap and you would have a bill of £5200 @10p/kwh
the only people to blame are yourselfs.
if the boiler was super heating the water constantly for 2years, then you would have been scalded from using the hot tap and you would have a bill of £5200 @10p/kwh
the only people to blame are yourselfs.
Problem is that I live in Salisbury which has some pretty draconian height restrictions and it would be highly unlikely to get planning permission. Besides solar is easier to maintain etc...
Given the amount of juice we consume it should pay for itself within 5-6 years, probably less if energy prices continue to rise as they are.
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Depends where he is though, obviously we know now but if you have the space and the money and its feasable, then its definetely the way to go.
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What's that they say about assuming something. It makes an ass out of you and me.
Lesson learned OP. Learned the hard way though...
Lesson learned OP. Learned the hard way though...
It's not definitely the way to go, the wind (1.5-15 kW) FiT is only 26.7 p/kWh compared with 41.3 pence for solar (<4 kW). This negates the capital cost difference. Wind has the extra hassles of planning and maintenance.
But, sure, if you live in a windy place, with no neighbors, a friendly planning officer and you're handy with a geese gun (+scaffold or winch) wind is "definitely the way to go" but for the vast majority of folks, solar is a better bet.
This is why there have been 28,505 PV installs, compared with only 1,329 wind (plus 205 hydro, a few dozen micro CHP and three anaerobic digestion plants). Of the 111MW of new capacity since April 2011, 77.8 MW (70%) has been solar PV.
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You won't have to pay for the electricity used and can probably claim compensation from your landlord and the electricity board for any inconvenience. The flat downstairs should also have noticed the leaking boiler and immediately have notified your landlord for you. Finally your postman should also have opened your mail and informed you of any important issues.
Hope this is what you wanted to hear
Hope this is what you wanted to hear
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As I said, its the way to go if you can afford it and have the ability to put it in, im not sure what posting these statistics is intended to do, obviously as the costs are substantially higher then there will be more solar installs but if you want to have be taking more money and energy out of the grid than putting into it, then putting in a wind turbine is the way to do that, especially if its run with a heat pump of sorts.
Hmm, have to say that if someone came and took readings, I'd assume my bill was going to be updated, and not having any prior experience of paying bills, I imagine it would be easy to miss the small print, and just assume that getting the meter read would mean that the bill would be updated (seems reasonable, no?).
Seems like it would be difficult to prove that this extra cost was because of the problem which your landlord didn't fix after being informed rather than you just leaving the TV on all day or something.
Anyway, now you're in this situation, I'd expect that it's probably technically going to be your responsibility to pay, so unless you can work out some kind of sympathy deal with the landlord, you might end up having to pay... (Not knowing what the contract says though)
Seems like it would be difficult to prove that this extra cost was because of the problem which your landlord didn't fix after being informed rather than you just leaving the TV on all day or something.
Anyway, now you're in this situation, I'd expect that it's probably technically going to be your responsibility to pay, so unless you can work out some kind of sympathy deal with the landlord, you might end up having to pay... (Not knowing what the contract says though)
No that's wrong. The different FiT is there to compensate the differences in energy generation/capital outlay. The rate of return for solar and wind is the same once FiT is considered. The reason why there are 20 times more solar than wind is mostly because for most people solar is more suitable, i.e. wind is not "definetely the way to go" as you said. In fact 19 times out of 20, solar is definitely the way to go!
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Respectfully, I disagree. But we could go around all day on it, if I was building my own property from the ground up tomorrow I would have a heat pump powered by a wind turbine and solar for the hot water. If I could have only one Id have the wind turbine.
We fitted a couple of solar panels last week, I personally think they look pretty hideous when they are installed apart from anything else but as long as people pay us to fit them then we will do so.
What I will say though, if you can put in an oversized wind turbine it will be more cost effective and look a lot less intrusive than the equivelant amount of solar panels needed to generate the same amount of energy.
If building your only property! Indeed, then you might be the one in 20 where wind makes sense, for the other 95% of us (yourself included it seems!) solar is the way to go.
Heat pump for underfloor heating. As it is only efficient at low temperatures.
Solar evacuated tubes running to an electric boiler.
Then pv and wind turbine.
Would be the best but, probably 40k-50k to install.
Wind turbine is a comparatively less to install and more electric compared with pv,but you need the land and planning permission for a proper size one which actually works. Small ones do not work at all, as show by several tests including a which one.
Solar evacuated tubes running to an electric boiler.
Then pv and wind turbine.
Would be the best but, probably 40k-50k to install.
Wind turbine is a comparatively less to install and more electric compared with pv,but you need the land and planning permission for a proper size one which actually works. Small ones do not work at all, as show by several tests including a which one.