Forum opinion on an E30 325i Sport?
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Scene tax is just a made up term for what is effectively supply and demand.
Also people saying that cars are selling for more than they are worth... well that is a bit contradictory IMO because something is worth what another person is willing to pay for it.
Also people saying that cars are selling for more than they are worth... well that is a bit contradictory IMO because something is worth what another person is willing to pay for it.
its why 20/30 year old boring 1.3 fiestas can be worth more than a proper 10 year old french hot hatch
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Only really if you get a perfect condition one and store it properly and the scene survives.
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Scene tax is supply and demand with an irrational element driving prices.
In this case, the 325i SE is fundamentally the same car. Some bodykit and sports seats and an LSD should not account for a price 4 times as high.
Quoted for the absolute truth.
It wouldn't be my £6k, but that doesn't mean that there aren't a few people out there who won't pay that, and its worth as much as someone is willing to pay
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I owned a touring for a year. Worst car I've ever owned, but only because it was so unreliable. When working, it was great. Sounded good, big enough for real life and does have most of the things you genuinely need. Was also more fun to punt around on a backroad than my E46 330i sport was, although it was massively slower.
As stated, the real problem is that they're now priced way above their ability, yet still have the risks of an old motor (as mine proved). Go buy something else.
As stated, the real problem is that they're now priced way above their ability, yet still have the risks of an old motor (as mine proved). Go buy something else.
Quoted for the absolute truth.
It wouldn't be my £6k, but that doesn't mean that there aren't a few people out there who won't pay that, and its worth as much as someone is willing to pay
But you surely see the point. Imagine if there was a Soarer Sport (No, not a Supra, this is far closer than that) which added a TRD bodykit, a TRD steering wheel and a different diff. That was it.
Imagine this Soarer was £6k, and yours £1500, despite being otherwise completely identical.
Then you will see why some of us think the prices 325i Sport's command are, frankly, ridiculous.
The 325i Sport is not some sort of iconic, low production volume race breed M Power car. It is simply the 1989 version of todays 330i M Sport. Thats it. A nice car, but 4 times the value of the SE?
Just lol.
Oh, I understand the differences between a Sport and a run of the mill 325i, even during my days of being into E30s I could never see or justify spending the extra money effectively for black headlining and 'Sport' on the log book (if my memory serves, the seats, Tech II kit and diff could be speced on a standard 325i anyway! 
) but the fact is that they are the most coveted E30 this side of a M3 and e30 nuts will exchange many times the price of a tidy 325i SE for one, and the prices of good, desirable E30s are only going to go one way as the numbers are whittled down. There are better ways to spend £6k, but there are worse cars to end up with .
I'd personally get a tidy 325i cab for £2k-£3k and enjoy summer in it, but that's me.
) but the fact is that they are the most coveted E30 this side of a M3 and e30 nuts will exchange many times the price of a tidy 325i SE for one, and the prices of good, desirable E30s are only going to go one way as the numbers are whittled down. There are better ways to spend £6k, but there are worse cars to end up with .I'd personally get a tidy 325i cab for £2k-£3k and enjoy summer in it, but that's me.
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[TW]Fox;19272779 said:
Scene tax doesn't exist or if it does the entire free market world is ran by scene tax methodology.
What you are basically say is the differences make it worth the extra money, therefore an SE is not really comparable esp when this one has had about a grands worth of suspension work (that the SE would now doubt be needing adding a grand to the 1k start price) and a full body respray inc waxoyl (adding what 2.5/3k to the price) and no doubt that 1k se is in need of the same as they are famed for rusting to bits. Add on the value of the BBS alloys and the recaro seats and this 'scene taxed' car is suddenly better value than the 1k SE.....
I'm also pretty sure someone who was thinking of buying such a sorted example of this car wouldn't be considering a 1k rust bucket that isn't going to look, last or drive anything like the posted example.
But yeah, other than that the car must have 'scene tax' added to it - or as i always think when i see it on these boards, its more 'idiot tax' on the posters post count as unless they are sat in a communist country despising at how the free market works they couldn't possibly make such a comment.
That appears to be the exact opposite of what I'm saying.
I've no idea what an SE is worth down to the nearest penny because I don't care, I was making a point. Lashout had a perfectly sorted SE and it cost him thousands and thousands less than the Sport would have. That is my point.
Errrr ok...
Scene tax comes about through artificial demand creation.
Were it not considered "cool" to own an 80s golf (for example) they'd all be on the scrapheap with the escorts and astras of that period, not changing hands for thousands of pounds. In this case the demand is not borne out of any logical consideration or need, it's pure "WANT" factor. Once the cool factor wears off and the scene kiddies go elsewhere, the bubble will burst VERY quickly.
Were it not considered "cool" to own an 80s golf (for example) they'd all be on the scrapheap with the escorts and astras of that period, not changing hands for thousands of pounds. In this case the demand is not borne out of any logical consideration or need, it's pure "WANT" factor. Once the cool factor wears off and the scene kiddies go elsewhere, the bubble will burst VERY quickly.