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That was a good episode, certainly one of the best of the first half of this season. didnt see the baby being an avatar coming either (sorry spoiler) shame we have to wait for the rest of the season now :(
 
Reasonably good episode but jumped around a lot imo, pacing was all over the shot and several anti-climaxes - they could have done a lot better job of the "last stand" style fight against the headless monks, instead it was glossed over like they ran out of time even tho the episode was kinda building up to it.
 
Valentino said:
We also need to know what drives melody to kill the doctor.
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I don't think its a given that Riversong (Melody Pond) does kill the Doctor. All we know at this stage is she is in Prison for killing the best man she has ever known. We know that someone in a Spacesuit kills The Doctor.

The latest episode is entitled "A Good man goes to war". Bit ambigious I would say - did it refer to The Doctor or to Rory?

Does Riversong end up killing Rory?

Is she the person inside the Spacesuit?

Does killing the Doctor as his future self (remember he is 200 years older when he gets shot) mean the end of all further incarnations? The Doctor exists in various incarnations in the past some of whom have travelled to the future to assist himself (The Five Doctors for instance). So he can exist in the past, present and future in different incarnations. Very confusing!
 
I had already guessed that River Song was actually Amy's baby a few minutes in. It just made sense but I can't believe I didn't make the connection between the names. I feel the episode was well thought out and I like the story but was executed poorly. I would have been a lot happier if they made it a 90 minute (half) series finale and actually showed everything that they needed to. The whole "let's use as many old characters as possible" thing didn't bother me too much. Also I didn't see the baby being a flesh avatar coming right until the doctor realized, I was like :O

Anyway can't wait for the new series now. I stopped watching doctor who when tenant left but this series has got me hooked again
 
Well river as daughter of rory/Amy is meh IMO.

3 of us at work have been speculating who river could be for a while now, from captain jack to a future version of the dr's daughter (jenni?)

Towards the end of last series we thought perhaps a future version of Amy pond or Rose Tyler.

I just think it feels like a cop out, rivers been popping up well before amy was dr's assistant, think they could have worked a much better thing than that.
 
Andy90 said:
All we know at this stage is she is in Prison for killing the best man she has ever known.

Does Riversong end up killing Rory?
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If the Doctor and River Song marry, and Rory is the best man, then this would sort of fit with the usual play-on-words clues...
 
The baby could never have been anything other than a flesh substitute as River Song and the Doctor live life in reverse*. The first time they meet (in Rivers timeline) will be 200 years in the Doctors future where River Song as a child dressed in a spacesuit kills him (remember the baby is being raised to be a weapon to destroy the Doctor with).

She's spent the majority of her life being incarcerated for killing the best man she ever knew, unfortunately she only got to know him after she had killed him. Quite a tragic story really, her second meeting with the Doctor must be quite emotional.

* Note River Song refused to help onboard Demon Falls until after the real baby was no longer on the station, and the Doctor never saw the real baby.

I wonder how the Headless Monks and the Silence are connected, who is behind the scenes. Also wonder how it all gets resolved in the end, hopefully not some timey-wimey stuff where it turns out they are just two aspects of the Doctor and the TARDIS is manipulating the timelines to reunite them.
 
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I'm pretty sure song is the girl in the spacesuit, perhaps controlled by the silence. There could be a plot twist and it be something else, but all the clues have been leading up to that. A powerful girl escapes from the suit (the power of a timelord needed perhaps, perhaps the power of regeneration after amy shoots her), in the nursery we see a picture of amy and a kid. The silence had been grooming amy and her child for a very long time anyway.

What i'm most anxious about, however, is with amy and rory leaving at the end of this season, i really hope the companion is not rubbish. I didn't watch season 4 due to the companion being catherine tate whom i hate with a passion?

5punk3monk3y said:
The BBC cares more for that audience then they do us.
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That audience make them a shed load of money, it makes sense to cater for the americans if it means in return we get better episodes with better effects etc because they can afford it.
 
Shamikebab said:
The headless monks felt very last minute just so they could do the eternally predictable having the doctor under a cloak. Energy swords? Seriously?
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For some reason it felt like i had seen them before but on further googling it seems they were a new addition.


One thing i will say is that i thought the army was tiny. In the confidential i think one of the crew said that they wanted starwarsesque. The fighting scenes were very poor imo, i suppose they did have a tonne of lizzard people though.

Also, something on wikipedia, and sourced with a podcast :/ says "Having Jenny [Doctors daughter] come back to life at the end of the episode was Steven Moffat's idea." interesting...
 
I think the problem with doing these 'wars' and fight scenes is that the doctor doesn't fight so they have to find an excuse to make him conveniently disappear for a bit.
 
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