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kEn_sct said:
GF got her degree results today and she didn't get what she needed to get the job she had been offered. Anyone know any feel good stories i can tell her of people who were in her situation but then succeeded later/in a different line of work. (she studied maths and had an accounting job lined up) or any advice of what she should do next
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maths degree for an accounting job? a bit over teh top you only need to know how to open an off shore bank account... you dont even need to be able to add up very well the software does it all...

how about to make her feel better, "98% of everything on the degree would never get used in an accounting job anyway - so it does not matter you failed"
 
She shouldn't worry about it at all, I got screwed over by my uni, wasn't allowed to finish my final project and therefore couldn't get a classified honours. I now administer the CRM DB in a multinational company, my boss and my dept's VP think the sun shines out of my arse.

My ex-gf's step dad had no degree and he's a senior pipeline engineer earning £100K+ p/a through hard work and being good at what he does.

Life is what you make of it, of course a good degree result helps but you have to deal with what you have and that often makes you a better person for it.
 
I find it very very hard to believe that employers don't care where you get your degree from.

A friend at college was one of the top mathematicians in the country at that age and he said that the cambridge maths degree was hard. There are unis that allow you in on C's and D's to do maths so how can all degrees be equal.

Now more than ever, the place you get your degree is relevant due to all the **** unis and the irrelevant degrees on offer.

From what I have seen of employers, if you can present well in an interview and they like you then that is half the battle. Some companies will not even look at you if you don't have the pre-requisite degree grade as they have twice as many candidates with that grade for the positions they are filling.
 
I find it very very hard to believe that employers don't care where you get your degree from.

A friend at college was one of the top mathematicians in the country at that age and he said that the cambridge maths degree was hard. There are unis that allow you in on C's and D's to do maths so how can all degrees be equal.

Now more than ever, the place you get your degree is relevant due to all the **** unis and the irrelevant degrees on offer.

From what I have seen of employers, if you can present well in an interview and they like you then that is half the battle. Some companies will not even look at you if you don't have the pre-requisite degree grade as they have twice as many candidates with that grade for the positions they are filling.
 
fez said:
A friend at college was one of the top mathematicians in the country at that age and he said that the cambridge maths degree was hard. There are unis that allow you in on C's and D's to do maths so how can all degrees be equal.
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A maths degree is hard full stop. Also, I always seemed to have much more work to do than my friends that did other subjects.
 
Morbius said:
...I always seemed to have much more work to do than my friends that did other subjects.
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I know exactly what you mean. Figured Maths would be a bit of a doss without any big essaywriting or lab sessions or anything, but somehow I've ended up with so much work in my 3rd year. :p


@OP: Tell her not to worry. There'll be job opportunities out there, and after a few years it won't matter how she did at uni. Most important thing: experience. Get out, get working, get experience, enjoy life. :)
 
kEn_sct said:
she already had claimed special circumstances due to family bereavements. So further appeal is unlikely to come to anything
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The mitigating circumstances may not lead to the uni upping her grade, but the other angle is to explain them to the employer - they may relax their 2:1 requirement.

Alternatively put a positive spin on things - she's been rescued from a career as an accountant :).
 
Approach the uni first and see what they say

Then approach the job and see if anything can be arranged. Failing that your gf may have to find other work lower down the scale and work her way up. Plenty of time to prove what she is capable of!
 
Morbius said:
A maths degree is hard full stop. Also, I always seemed to have much more work to do than my friends that did other subjects.
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Now you are talking i thought i was alone. They should take her because a 3rd in math for that job is good enough. if some one tried to compute complex numbers (even if she failed) i don't think she will have hard time dealing with those bank figures that are alway in xxxK's.
No wander she did well on her internship to earn the Top boss' recommendation!
 
britboy4321 said:
a 3rd is pretty poor tbh.

Retake the final year? The final semester?
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Bassmansam said:
I dont think its possible to retake if you pass your degree.
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You cant retake any exams that contribute towards your degree.

you can only retake exams for an ordinary degree not a degree with honours

Myshra said:
People on the grad scheme at Orange here were told they needed 2:1s and one in my intake turned up with a 3rd and did fine (his degree was in history, job in marketing. I got no clue but he was awesome). As long as she discusses it with them in a fairly adult way HR might be OK with her. Would help if she could show she was near a 2:2 etc...

Tell her to be prepared with reasons why they should still take her when she talks and not to break down crying or anything like that. You want to give the impression when you chat that although she has made a mistake she has the drive to sort it out and deliver for <insert company>.
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thanks for this! just the kinda stuff she needs to know
 
is it possible to retake the year if she had exceptional circumstances? - as already said, a 3rd is pretty crap. i would rather hire someone without a degree and train them up than hire someone with a 3rd.
 
Alternatively it isn't the end of the world. Tell her everything happens for a reason and it will turn out for the best.

Maybe she should ditch the accountancy job and become a self employed bookkeeper. It's a great business. Work from home, own hours, none of the corporate bull****.
 
edscdk said:
maths degree for an accounting job? a bit over teh top you only need to know how to open an off shore bank account... you dont even need to be able to add up very well the software does it all...

how about to make her feel better, "98% of everything on the degree would never get used in an accounting job anyway - so it does not matter you failed"
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does if you want to be a chartered accountant
 
go back to the original job offer - 1 hand job or a gobble will probably get it sorted.
 
I got a 3rd in my degree (CompSci from York). I now work in a top 10 accountancy firm and the only issue that my degree caused was that I have had to do things the long way and do AAT first (most pointless professional qualification ever).

I'd tell your GF to 1) explain the situation to her prospective employers including the circumstances and 2) if they're not happy taking her on at a graduate level ask about entry level (i.e. AAT - may be pointless but requirements don't include a degree). As long as she doesn't mind a couple of years of AAT it will be fine, plus with option 2) you get a couple of years easy life as the exams are so easy.
 
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