I love watching PMQs.

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Makes me laugh so much. David Cameron absolutely beats the crap out of Red Ed and labours policy's.

I read in the papers yesterday that the PM's advisor's are telling the PM to stop giving Red Ed such a duffing at PMQs.

David Cameron isn't a class above Red Ed, he's in the stratosphere.
 
=VTA=MANFACE said:
Makes me laugh so much. David Cameron absolutely beats the crap out of Red Ed and labours policy's.

I read in the papers yesterday that the PM's advisor's are telling the PM to stop giving Red Ed such a duffing at PMQs.

David Cameron isn't a class above Red Ed, he's in the stratosphere.
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To me it's always been clear that they're in different leagues in terms of their ability as public speakers, I agree. That doesn't mean you can get away with using apostrophes incorrectly though :p
 
It is a spectacle for sure, and you're right about Cameron laying into Ed, even as a Labour supporter they are a shambles and don't deserve to be in power, the whole leadership should be scalped, Ed + his shadow cabinet don't have any policies and just try to quote newspaper stories about the government, but Cameron shoots him down nearly all the time! :o
 
AmTechFox said:
they are a shambles and don't deserve to be in power
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I'm not a fan of either of them, but I think this is more true. I don't think Cameron is a class above Ed, I think Cameron is average and Ed is just way below the level you'd expect he'd be at.
 
Zefan said:
To me it's always been clear that they're in different leagues in terms of their ability as public speakers, I agree. That doesn't mean you can get away with using apostrophes incorrectly though :p
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Corrected.:p

Makes me laugh so much. David Cameron absolutely beats the crap out of Red Ed and labours polices.

I read in the papers yesterday that the PMs advisers are telling the PM to stop giving Red Ed such a duffing at PMQs.

David Cameron isn't a class above Red Ed, he's in the stratosphere.
 
LOLOL...David Cameron's reply: " On the first subject, he was found guilty" Red Ed's face was a cracker when the camera turned to his face when he said this.
 
Yeah, I used to think Labour really shouldn't bring in David Milliband simply because of his association with Blair and Brown, but having Ed as leader has been an unmitigated disaster.

That said, the coalition has hardly been effective. Nearly everything it does is met with widespread derision. Big Society is now regarded as a massive joke, the promised reforms to the NHS are now dead in the water, and the proposed cuts to education and elsewhere has been found to count for nothing. The tuition fees debacle have been massively misjudged where the Tories literally thought only a tiny minority would charge at the highest number (the average fee is now £8700 - that's beyond farcicial). On top of that, they have admitted they got their calculations wrong and the fee is supposed to be even higher than the proposed maximum of 9k, to make up for the shortfall from cuts.

Cameron and company have no clue what they are doing.
 
KNiVES said:
Yeah, I used to think Labour really shouldn't bring in David Milliband simply because of his association with Blair and Brown, but having Ed as leader has been an unmitigated disaster.

That said, the coalition has hardly been effective. Nearly everything it does is met with widespread derision. Big Society is now regarded as a massive joke, the promised reforms to the NHS are now dead in the water, and the proposed cuts to education and elsewhere has been found to count for nothing. The tuition fees debacle have been massively misjudged where the Tories literally thought only a tiny minority would charge at the highest number (the average fee is now £8700 - that's beyond farcicial). On top of that, they have admitted they got their calculations wrong and the fee is supposed to be even higher than the proposed maximum of 9k, to make up for the shortfall from cuts.

Cameron and company have no clue what they are doing.
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Are you sure ?

My mother in law had to wait in an ambulance for six hours outside A&E before they could get a bed for her. That's in Wales, where Labour have always been power. She was a staunch Labour supporter all her life, she isn't now.
 
I don't like either of them, but it's clearly advantageous to be the one answering the questions rather than the one asking.

Cameron has all the power of government at his disposal and also possesses the crucial credibility that comes with simply being the prime minister. With such an inbuilt advantage even Gordon Brown could frequently come out on top.
 
=VTA=MANFACE said:
Are you sure ?

My mother in law had to wait in an ambulance for six hours outside A&E before they could get a bed for her. That's in Wales, where Labour have always been power. She was a staunch Labour supporter all her life, she isn't now.
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Did you know that it would also be six hours under a Tory government, because there would be exactly the same number of hospitals with exactly the same number of beds with exactly the same number of staff. There's nothing in the Tory plans to expand on the NHS, only cut it down, so what's your point? There has been an incredibly public put-down of the Tory plans for the NHS, which makes me rather surprised you have decided to imply the Tories could have done better.

After four years of this coalition - if it even lasts that long - I bet you the wait times will be the same, if not worse. The NHS reforms proposed by the coalition has been attacked by the very people it claims to help - the doctors and the nurses.
 
Its embarrassing watching that, half the time these old codgers are near asleep (and getting paid for sleeping on the job), and the other half theyre shouting and bawling like a pack of drunks that just saw a stripper walk by.
 
Meh, i watched it a few times - it's just the people who are supposed to be in charge of our country bickering like schoolgirls. We have more sophisticated debates than they do.
 
KNiVES said:
Did you know that it would also be six hours under a Tory government, because there would be exactly the same number of hospitals with exactly the same number of beds with exactly the same number of staff. There's nothing in the Tory plans to expand on the NHS, only cut it down, so what's your point? There has been an incredibly public put-down of the Tory plans for the NHS, which makes me rather surprised you have decided to imply the Tories could have done better.

After four years of this coalition - if it even lasts that long - I bet you the wait times will be the same, if not worse. The NHS reforms proposed by the coalition has been attacked by the very people it claims to help - the doctors and the nurses.
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Labour tripled the spending on the NHS during their time in power, and yet average time to treat increased.... Perhaps if there had been reform as well as increase things would have actually improved....
 
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