Oh Dear Windows8 looks like it will support X360 games

FoxEye said:
In this case, I think integrating GFWL into Win8 is a good thing. I've already integrated it into my current win7 image, as it happens.

We all saw the trainwreck that was GTA4 + GFWL. That's what happens when you make optional software that doesn't correctly patch itself to the latest version, and distribute an old version of it with a game.

If it's integrated into Windows it can be auto-patched via Windows updates, at least.
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I don't think forcing GFWL is a good thing at all.
It's awful, the software itself is just awful, I couldn't play Bioshock 2 at all because it kept deleting/corrupting my saves.


GFWL should be scrapped completely imo.
 
Evilsod said:
Won't that mean some people will be working out ways to build out Xbox Live basically the moment its released?
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Only the people with completely retarded OCD. I'm sure for most people, just not using it will suffice.

Guarantee that they'll put an option to remove it within the windows features like the current games. There's not a hope in hell they'll make it so business users can't turn it off.
 
Good god people using the abbreviation "m$" annoys me...

So childish... *realises I'm in PC games forum* nevermind, carry on...
 
Streeteh said:
Erm, am i the only one who sees no mention in those articles of windows 8 supporting 360 games? All i can see is them saying Xbox Live will be built in, instead of being a downloadable application.
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the EU will put a stop to that cos its not for for competition init :rolleyes: we will have a stupid icon on our desktop demanding we make a choice between ea games / xboxlive / steam / whatever else...
 
This simply isn't happening :D

All it is is that Microsoft are scrapping their 'Zune' brand to replace it with a cohesive 'Live' brand across all their platforms to keep the service consistent and obvious to users. Windows 8 will run on every platform available with the same UI (except maybe the phone which could continue to use a separate platform and the Metro UI, which I'm really impressed with) with the traditional desktop running alongside. The new UI will support apps written in common web languages (HTML 5, Javascript, CSS) there's been no mention of support for whatever code the 360 uses. Having an inclusive media brand & service across platforms is smart and way overdue IMO.
 
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arknor said:
the EU will put a stop to that cos its not for for competition init :rolleyes: we will have a stupid icon on our desktop demanding we make a choice between ea games / xboxlive / steam / whatever else...
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Heh, I think you're confusing GFWL with GFWL Marketplace. Which is different again to GFW...

Yeah, you're not the only one who's confused... I am too :p
 
Streeteh said:
Most likely.

Also i'd wager EA/Valve/other digital distribution companies will take up a law suit on the same grounds that were used to make Microsoft offer other internet browsers on first use. Unfair competition etc.
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Would that actually work? After all Xbox Live is the property of MS and its not like its forcing you to use it.
 
Evilsod said:
Would that actually work? After all Xbox Live is the property of MS and its not like its forcing you to use it.
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It did for the internet browser case!

IIRC Apple sued Microsoft and forced them to include an option to use Safari/Firefox/Opera instead of IE upon installation of Windows Vista/7.

The same method applies here. Both are 'optional' pieces of software that will be auto-installed by Microsoft so EA et al could easily use the same argument.
 
Shayper said:
Good god people using the abbreviation "m$" annoys me...

So childish... *realises I'm in PC games forum* nevermind, carry on...
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Just as childish about whining over an abbreviation and not actually adding anything to the discussion.

You can leave now.
 
Aedus said:
Just as childish about whining over an abbreviation and not actually adding anything to the discussion.

You can leave now.
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Sorry, but as I'm sure you will agree, this thread was over a non story, so has no point :p

But my views are (just to stop the ironic complaint :p) that gfwl is god awful, and forcing it on customers is a bad idea ;)
 
Shayper said:
But my views are (just to stop the ironic complaint :p) that gfwl is god awful, and forcing it on customers is a bad idea ;)
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Exactly.

It just puts me off of W8, I don't want to be forced to have something I don't want on my PC and have to go out of my way to remove it. Maybe if they made it better (Like Steam) I wouldn't have such an issue with it, but it really is poor. I've seen not 1 single benefit for GFWL, but lots of reasons to hate it, ranging from being ugly all the way to making games crash and losing your save data.
 
Streeteh said:
It did for the internet browser case!

IIRC Apple sued Microsoft and forced them to include an option to use Safari/Firefox/Opera instead of IE upon installation of Windows Vista/7.

The same method applies here. Both are 'optional' pieces of software that will be auto-installed by Microsoft so EA et al could easily use the same argument.
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IE is uninstallable though, surely this will be written into the OS itself, thus not something another company can provide?

I also never understood the whoe IE saga. It's microsofts OS can't they put whatever the hell they want on it?
 
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