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Sri Lanka. Did anyone else watch that John Snow Documentary tonight - The Killingfields?

I find it very hard to comprehend why the UN turned such a blind eye to the horrific murders and rape of civilians. Hopefully this documentary will lead to the arrest of the Sri Lanka President for war crimes.
 
look up any of the African civil wars and they are exactly the same Albert , very little media coverage but absolutely horrific .



this is interesting although not as serious as the docu that was on this evening... http://www.vbs.tv/en-gb/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1-of-8

they spend time with an ex Liberian war chief who admits to sacrificing and cutting out the beating heart of a child live on camera , he has some very sad stories to tell about what his army got upto during the war , mainly smoking crack , raping children ,slaughtering whole villages and cannibalism
 
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Why is it always the UN at fault and not the people committing these atrocities?

It seems the UN are at fault when they help and when they don't help enough.

If the president was involved why isn't the international community & war crimes commission not looking into it, the UN is for relief and doesn't the country have to ask for help first?

Welcome to the world of politics...:/
 
AmTechFox said:
Why is it always the UN at fault and not the people committing these atrocities?

It seems the UN are at fault when they help and when they don't help enough.

If the president was involved why isn't the international community & war crimes commission not looking into it, the UN is for relief and doesn't the country have to ask for help first?

Welcome to the world of politics...:/
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Because the UN left the country even though they knew the civilians were going to be killed. Also, as the Army were shelling the civilian hostpitals the UN had drones/spy planes above watching it happen and they didn't do anything. It was shocking ...
 
albert said:
Sri Lanka. Did anyone else watch that John Snow Documentary tonight - The Killingfields?

I find it very hard to comprehend why the UN turned such a blind eye to the horrific murders and rape of civilians. Hopefully this documentary will lead to the arrest of the Sri Lanka President for war crimes.
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I expect that the Sri Lankan government will be a given a chance to analyse the evidence first?? I assume this is not trial by media??

Also why only one chap?? There are loads of parties who should be arrested for war crimes in Sri Lanka then.

Maybe you should also consider the LTTE who ended up killing thousands of civilians themselves including Tamils opposed to them(a prominent murder was that of a foreign minister,Lakshman Kadirgamar who was a Tamil) and ethnically cleansed the Muslim population from the North of country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakshman_Kadirgamar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Muslims_from_the_Northern_province_by_LTTE

If you followed the war, before this they ended up massacring loads of Muslims in attacks before the cleansing occurred. The sad thing is that traditionally the Tamil and Muslim populations were close and most of the Muslims knew Tamil(language) too. The LTTE also used suicide bombs and truck and train bombs against civilian targets too (168 suicide bombings alone against military and civilian targets).

BTW, a large percentage of the LTTE's own forces ended up fighting their old comrades too at the end of the war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Makkal_Viduthalai_Pulikal

It would be interesting to know whether these forces were also involved in any war crimes too.

The IPKF also murdered and raped civilians in Sri Lanka too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force

However,as India is a partner of the US and UK now this has been swept under the carpet. The LTTE ended up killing one of the former Indian prime ministers too.

The remaining LTTE leaders and those who helped directly fund them also need to investigated too for their role in 25 years of attacks on civilians,usage of child soldiers(UN reported this) and war crimes themselves. On top of this why the heck did they retreat to civilian areas in the last parts of the war?? It almost sounds like they were using the civilians as human shields.

Of course we allowed them to fund raise for over 20 years(they were banned in 2000) and that money was diverted towards weapons anyway.

Unfortunately,it also seems at that point the government forces did not care either and were hellbent on destroying the LTTE after 25 years of conflict. It is not the first time that Sri Lankan governments have acted in a bloody way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Uprising

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_1987-89

The last one happened concurrently with the insurgency.
 
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fair enough, its real bad what happened but did they really have to show people getting shot and woman without clothes on, being told they were raped before being shot, makes me feel sick and its very hard to get it out of your head once you've watching people being killed when you know its the real deal...

it may sound bad but i'd rather not know about it.. and let the un and who ever else deal with it.. their is nothing we, the public can do and its now history, so why show it on tv ? i feel ill
 
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fair enough, its real bad what happened but did they really have to show people getting shot and woman without clothes on, being told they were raped before being shot, makes me feel sick and its very hard to get it out of your head once you've watching people being killed when you know its the real deal...

it may sound bad but i'd rather not know about it.. and let the un and who ever else deal with it.. their is nothing we, the public can do and its now history, so why show it on tv ? i feel ill
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What also annoys me is that Channel 4 also does not seem to care about thousands of other civilians murdered by the LTTE in their attacks against them over 25 years. The LTTE was involved in ethnic cleansing and torture too(which the UN has also confirmed). The Indian IPKF also ended up doing terrible things too. Of course these people don't exist as it is easier to make a story look one sided. I have watched quite a few of the Channel 4 documentaries on Sri Lanka and unless I missed something they really seem to brush over all the terrible things the LTTE have done themselves.

On top of this why bring this up now when the country is trying to rebuild after 25 years of war which has killed 100000 people and cost the country an estimated $200 billion?

The political parties don't get on well in Sri Lanka so if the opposition gets into power,if any of the current bods did nasty stuff they are screwed.

The truth always comes out.
 
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I just watched this. Such barbaric behaviour.

Unfortunately I don't think anyone will be held accountable for those crimes. The UN has shown time and time again that they're useless when it comes to action and the international community has only interests that ultimately benefit themselves. Sri Lanka holds no one's interest.

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What also annoys me is that Channel 4 also does not seem to care about thousands of other civilians murdered by the LTTE in their attacks against them over 25 years.
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To be fair the documentary wasn't trying to give a historic account of the Sri Lankan conflict and it quite clearly shows that both sides took part in these crimes against civilians. However it is natural that the focus is on an entity that is still active.

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this is interesting although not as serious as the docu that was on this evening... http://www.vbs.tv/en-gb/watch/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1-of-8
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That looks very interesting. Watching now :)
 
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I just watched this. Such barbaric behaviour.

Unfortunately I don't think anyone will be held accountable for those crimes. The UN has shown time and time again that they're useless when it comes to action and the international community has only interests that ultimately benefit themselves. Sri Lanka holds no one's interest.
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Even coalition attacks which had large civilian collateral damage committed in Iraq and Afghanistan are being swept under the carpet too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007_Baghdad_airstrike

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruzgan_helicopter_attack

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granai_airstrike

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-125820/US-bomb-kills-30-Afghan-wedding.html

It just shows you that even with the most advanced weapons in the world attacking any area where civilians are nearby is not a good idea.

Hopefully as technology improves weapons will become more selective in their damage.


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To be fair the documentary wasn't trying to give a historic account of the Sri Lankan conflict and it quite clearly shows that both sides took part in these crimes against civilians. However it is natural that the focus is on an entity that is still active.
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The LTTE and groups which supported them still are active. The thing is that even in the past when the war was in full swing Channel 4 rarely focused on the horrible things the LTTE did.
 
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I wrote an article about some of the worst dicators currently in power around the world and what goes on in other countries makes you feel physically ill. Most of the naughty chaps were unknown to me and the plights of the people just don't get any media coverage. Yet, we stand back and do nothing - especially when those countries have oil deals with The West.
 
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