New Hardtail - help needed!

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Hey guys,

Looking to get a new bike, and decided on a hardtail because it will be used for general use as well as some trail biking (aim to start in summer and join a club during Uni).

Budget I really don't want to spend more than £300, around £200 would be nice :)

Could you guys tell me what I should be looking for spec wise? I know I really like trigger shifters, like the Shimano E-Z Shifters on my current bike.

Would you also be able to throw me some ideas as to bikes I should be looking at?

Also, any one know much about the Muddyfox Voltage? (I can't find any review sites) Sports direct has it half-price atm - down from £500 to £249.99.

Thanks guys,
Cookeh
 
DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT GO NEAR A MUDDY FOX!

your budget sucks tbh since you mention "trial riding" and "join a club"

you really really need to wait and save some more, as a very basic model will set you back £300+

as much as i hate to say it, if halfors have any carreras on offer, thats as good as you ll get for a lower budget, just make sure you get a decent bike shop to build and set it up for you.
 
I'm utterly new to proper mountain biking, I'd have thought £300 would be more than enough for a beginners bike :p

By join a club, I simply mean the various groups in Uni that can give me advice and "teach" me so to speak.

At the very least, what should I be looking for spec wise?
 
Okay, I'll have a look at the Kraken then.

Any good reviewing sites out there?

Also, any opinions on the Decathlon Rockrider?
 
There is such a thing as too cheap...

Be careful that the Rockrider isnt too much of a 'cycle path' bike and you end up bending the wheels first time out on it.

I commute on a 2008 Vulcan and its been pretty good to me - 2500+ miles under the belt for £240, so far its had a new front mech (rusted up) and a new headset yesterday. It gets abused, rained on, and chucked away in the shed at 6pm weekdays covered in mud, rain, whatever.

The wheels seem to be fairly strong, and I've had it off road a few times with fatter tyres on it and it handles fine. Especially when you remember the fork stiffness can be changed ;)
 
Why the £50 price difference between the Vulcan and Kraken?

Is it simply just the hydraulic disc and the extra 20mm of fork travel?
 
you cant just say "simply the hydraulics"

they are miles better and like black men, once you ve had them you cant go back
 
So the shortlist at the moment looks like a Kraken or the £50 cheaper Rockrider 5.3?

Anything else to consider?

Perhaps the most important question: What kind of specs should I be looking for?
 
The bump was more aimed at finding out the kind of specs I should be looking at (e.g. travel, type of forks, best frame material, best gear set-up, crankshaft etc), and exactly what it all means (e.g. dual alloy rims, etc).

Buying a bike with no knowledge of why you're buying it seems pretty daft to me, don't you agree?
 
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You know, I think the advice on these forums for people starting out and wanting to buy a decent bike is sometimes....how can I put this....lacking. I noticed it in the other big bike thread. Supposed people in the know giving out advice like "it's just better". Why? Expand please?

DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT GO NEAR A MUDDY FOX!

Why?

your budget sucks tbh since you mention "trial riding" and "join a club"

That's nice.

you really really need to wait and save some more, as a very basic model will set you back £300+
as much as i hate to say it, if halfors have any carreras on offer, thats as good as you ll get for a lower budget, just make sure you get a decent bike shop to build and set it up for you.

What makes the Carerra worth buying over others? What is a "basic model" spec wise?


Carrera Vulcan would be the best thing for your budget and starting out in some trail riding or stretch it to a Kraken.

Why do you recommend these bikes? To someone starting out who does not know much, can you explain with more info why you would recommend them to someone?

Decathlon Rockrider & Kraken are all of a muchness best to sit on them both and see which feels best.

Explain "much of a muchness" at this price point then. What makes them all much of a muchness? Aren't they all "much of a muchness" when looking at bikes for £500, £1000, £2000 since your budget reflects on what you get for the money? Explain please.


There is such a thing as too cheap...

Be careful that the Rockrider isnt too much of a 'cycle path' bike and you end up bending the wheels first time out on it.

How is someone new starting out supposed to know which wheels are subject to breaking? Can you expand with more info on what to look out for?

you cant just say "simply the hydraulics"

they are miles better and like black men, once you ve had them you cant go back

They are better because...? You say so? They are made better? In what way? More info.


I owned a Kraken many years ago, biggest heap of sheeite I've ever sat on, ended up giving it away. Go for the Decathlon Rockrider 5.3.

Why? What was wrong with it? Info please.


The carrera bikes of recent are a great improvement on the ones from a few years ago so now even have a good component list!

Such as? What should one look for?


No real need for a bump, for the money all the specs are going to be of a muchness as has already been said if you can get disc brakes its a bonus. You need to go and try some bikes for size and feel.

Again that word "muchness" again. Why should it matter what anyone picks no matter what the budget is then? You guys state they will all be the same at that price. Well, are they not all the same at £1000 then? If not, why not? Why pick one brand over another? What should one look for in the components?



The info given out may as well be nothing. Sorry guys this is just how it comes accross to someone new to this. None of you go into a level of detail about why a £1500 bike is actually better than a £300 one. No it's not obvious. Explain.
 
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