PM: Treat Absent Dads Like Drink Drivers

Dickyb0b · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:35

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pm-runaway-dads-feel-force-shame-083829774.html

I would make a law up that if they leave there family that when they sign on or get a job , they would get a money reduction, you really have to wonder why they walk out and not help with anything or is the women to blame?

Sampsy · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:39

I would make a law up that means they get punched in the face, similar to the well known yellow car law but more severe.

Tefal · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:40

what if it's because the woman refuses to let them near the kids?

Von Smallhausen · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:42

Tefal said:
what if it's because the woman refuses to let them near the kids?

Exactly. It isn't all one sided.

Valentino · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:42

If you leave your family you already do get money taken from you to go to the kid.

Dickyb0b · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:42

there must be a reason for it if thats the case, usually something along the lines of the dad was a crap one, never showed any care to his child there for the women gets ****ed off and starts making problems or dad wanted more sex than normal and she refuses , causing the man to get upset and go in indeniel mode..

Valentino · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:44

Dickyb0b said:
the must be a reason for it if thats the case, usually something along the lines of the dad was a crap one, never showed any care to his child there for the women gets ****ed off and starts making problems.

A dad can show 100% affection to his children and still be hated by the mother. This is about runnaway father though, not forced out fathers.

JHeaton · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:44

Dickyb0b said:
the must be a reason for it if thats the case, usually something along the lines of the dad was a crap one, never showed any care to his child there for the women gets ****ed off and starts making problems.

Yes, the reason could well be that the mother is a bad person, too. It's not as one-sided as you like to think.

Sampsy · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:46

Tefal said:
what if it's because the woman refuses to let them near the kids?

True, I suppose I took absent dads as dads that don't fulfill their responsibility by choice.

shifty_uk · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:47

Would his efforts to support this and digs in the article have anything to do with him losing a child? Blunt but he probably feels the need to do more now.

It's a hard one because at times I would imagine the women is indeed to blame. Could be in the sack with another chap or essentially cause havoc, run away with someone else and still expect her 'share'. He's clearly not getting at those cases but it's difficult for the authorities to judge or implement presumably.

I do however wish there was more in place, especially for me growing up. We never once got a penny from my old man, ran off when I was 2 and we had to scrape past with nothing - CSA were useless apparently.

arknor · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:47

and there arent women who drop the kids and do a runner?

Destination · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:48

Tefal said:
what if it's because the woman refuses to let them near the kids?

Then they are not absent.
He is quite clear in what he said, this isn't about sides.
This is about the chaps who breed and flee.

Joshy · 19 Jun 2011 at 17:48

Sounds like mega patronizing bull**** to me.

Some kids are better off without their fathers.

AtreuS · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:01

Total bullcrud... each case is individual. Some blokes are a waste of oxygen and some women are also!

A good friend of mine was used as a sperm doner by a total evil witch of a woman who changed literally the second she was pregnant. He lost his business due to her schemes and nearly lost his rights to see his daughter.

Yes some men are total jerks but plenty of women are as bad.

Smitho3 · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:03

My best friend hasnt seen his boy for 4 years, not his fault, the cow wont let him see him. He still pays her every week via bank transfer. He has no say in the matter... Fair?

Orcish-Horde · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:06

Cameron opening his mouth without thinking things over shocker. Or maybe he has given it a lot of thought and is planning a cut or charge. CSA set up charge coming in? Interesting that he singled out fathers and never mentioned absent mothers or parents that prevent contect. Never mind the family court's placing fathers as second class parents.

Number_25 · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:06

Smitho3 said:
My best friend hasnt seen his boy for 4 years, not his fault, the cow wont let him see him. He still pays her every week via bank transfer. He has no say in the matter... Fair?

Same as my brother...

Next thing the tories will say that its the rape victims fault for being raped.. :rolleyes:

vincent1989 · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:11

he singled out fathers because it's fathers day, he singles out 'run away' dads because he realises not all have a choice.

not a fan of David Cameron at all but people here are either too over sensitive or are picking holes to further their agenda.

DisrupTor75 · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:13

MY best m8 has the same problem. He's fighting to see his two kids as his ex upped and moved away and he doesent even know where they are living. He gets to see them for 6 hours a week by having to drive up to the town she lives in and meet near a wilkinsons store but she's sucha cow shes constantly messing it around for him. Just yesterday he was supposed to have them when she did a last minute cacellation saying they dont want to come (if you saw them with him you would see its not true) so he asks can he have them for a few exta hours next saturday and all he gets is "NO"

She has tried every trick in the book to stop him seeing his kids for no other teason than they splt up and since she latched onto another bloke, who she now also has a kid to (to bind him to her tbh) she is trying to erase him from the kids lives.

I don't have any kids myself but i see what it does to him and it even makes me furious. and this kind of thing from cameron doesent help

oh and he also pays CSA for them and gets them anything they need. This is the person that Cameron wants to stigmatize as well.

Women can be vicious little ****** too.

Glaucus · 19 Jun 2011 at 18:15

What a pile of rubbish, help those that laws prevent first, before going after those who have no interest. Stupid rant, when the laws of the land prevent those who want to be involved more.