An Independent Scotland?
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The oil is piped onshore in Scotland. So we have a better claim to the taxes generated from the oil industry.
the debt you share with the rest of the UK , its already veen mentioned in the press scotlands share could be as much as 110billion
GBP is not scottish the scotish pound is pegged by the UK GDP at a fixed 1:1 rate dont expect that to continue if you leave the UK at which point your currency will probably lose value quickly until an independent scotland proves itself more capable than greece and portugal, there is no way your economy will just boom as soon as you leave the uk
NS oil will probably go wherever the shetland islands go who might not want to stay with scotland if you gain independance, either way scotland wouldnt get all of the north sea oil taxes
how come its called independence but you dont actually want to be independent? makes no sense to me
seriously most of the scottish people have unrealistic views of what independence will actually entail
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It would be down to the negotiating teams, no different from the negotiations which carved up the fields between the competing Nations before.
The Oil fields would no doubt be ceded to Scotland, however the more lucrative Gas fields are more contentious.
Nothing is quite as clear cut as the SNP would like to portray, which is why they baulk at the idea of having a dual stage referendum.
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A dual stage referendum is pointless. Just another stalling tactic thought up by Westminster.
and an independent scotland is more than likely just another grab at more power without actually wanting to be independent.
what do you pro independent scottish people expect to gain from beeing independent that you dont have now anyway and how much do you expect your country to benefit from independence?
That is a matter of opinion, to begin with the Scottish Parliament needs a mandate to challenge constitutional matters, which it doesn't, then it needs to negotiate the terms, hence 2 stages to the referendum.
It is hardly a stalling tactic as the SNP clearly do not want to hold a referendum of any type anytime soon. They simply got put into a sticky situation with their manifesto promises and gaining an unplanned for majority
I don't think you can really say that both in terms of infrastructure.
Likewise the Union has no automatic right to anything. Territorial claims are highly unlikely in any event regardless of the legal authority at the time of negotiation.
We clearly have better schools so I suppose independence would give us more cash to invest in them. Then the sky's the limit
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the debt you share with the rest of the UK , its already veen mentioned in the press scotlands share could be as much as 110billion
Which pales into significance of the trillions that you would be left with.
In fact that figure will probably increase but with a structural surplus it isn't too alarming.
I see no indication as to why there would be a 'run' on the value of Scotland.
Meanginless conjecture with no basis in reality or politics. Scotland wouldn't get all the reserves, I think we already know this.
Political independence and fiscal responsibility.
We clearly have better schools so I suppose independence would give us more cash to invest in them. Then the sky's the limit
You getting in the swing too?
You getting in the swing too?
Oh God no! I thought I'd just throw in more pointless, over the top, moronic, idiotic, provoking, inflammatory and trolling statements. It seems that is what this thread is for.
I was meaning to ask, what exactly is it you do? I know it's government related but not entirely sure. Feel free to tell me to keep my nose out or take it to trust if you want - I'm trying to figure out what to do with my life.
Why not, military infrastructure is just as prevalent in England, especially in the South. besides location of material and men doesn't imply ownership.
Quite, however the stipulation of negotiation stands.
There is no precident in the world where a country has needed two referendum.
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You getting in the swing too?
i think hes refering to another post of mine
, ok maybe hes not as smart as i assumed Oh God no! I thought I'd just throw in more pointless, over the top, moronic, idiotic, provoking, inflammatory and trolling statements. It seems that is what this thread is for.
"Oh god no" Ahleckz said:
Law enforcement officer. I'd also recommend staying away from the public sector even if you could get in at present. Progression is limited.
And also no precedent where independence was given by negotiation without prior succession or mandate from the people.
This is rather a unique situation (or at least might be, my Dad says that outside of the usual nationalists, Independence doesn't really get much mention, there are more important issues...so he says), and the Scottish Parliament first need to gain a mandate from its people to validate any claim against a constitutional matter.
Besides why is Salmond so frightened of a two stage referendum?
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Law enforcement officer. I'd also recommend staying away from the public sector even if you could get in at present. Progression is limited.
You are a Policeman?
I thought you were some kind of civil servant.
Law enforcement officer. I'd also recommend staying away from the public sector even if you could get in at present. Progression is limited.
In the traditional sense? I thought you were a civil servant, a researcher or something to do with policy. I am shocked.