The Official Llano (Desktop) Review and Overclocking thread

clocka · 30 Jun 2011 at 09:25

** The Official AMD Llano (Desktop) Review and Overclocking thread **

AMD Llano cpu reviews are now out, the A8-3850 and A6-3650 are available now with the cheaper Llano cpu's out later this year.

Llano cpu's are available to buy here (£96/114): http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=6&subid=2060

here are the specs of the higher powered apu's, 2 of which are available now:

here is the difference in gpu specs between the a8 and a6 apu's:

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2011 at 10:25

So CPU performance is like 5% better than Athlon II clock-for-clock (so probably around the same as a Phenom II). It only beats the i3-2300 at heavily multithreaded stuff like video encoding. IGP is fantastic, between 2 and 3 times as fast Intel's flagship HD 3000 right now. It can't come close to Quick Sync though!

Seems like a great budget choice for gamers, or just light gamers who also want to do some x264 video encoding...providing it's cheap enough!

d_brennen · 30 Jun 2011 at 10:27

DragonQ said:
So CPU performance is like 5% better than Athlon II clock-for-clock (so probably around the same as a Phenom II). It only beats the i3-2300 at heavily multithreaded stuff like video encoding. IGP is fantastic, between 2 and 3 times as fast Intel's flagship HD 3000 right now.

Seems like a great budget choice for gamers, or just light gamers who also want to do some video encoding.

Or everyone else, who just want a computer for Facebook, playing HD video without mucking about with video cards and drivers and occasional Sims...

Edit: Llano playing Crysis 2

Minstadave · 30 Jun 2011 at 10:28

Nothing amazingly exciting, brings low-medium res gaming on an IGP to an acceptable level, CPU performance is the same as Athlon II.

d_brennen · 30 Jun 2011 at 10:31

Minstadave said:
Nothing amazingly exciting, brings low-medium res gaming on an IGP to an acceptable level, CPU performance is the same as Athlon II.

Is that not amazing enough?

Good all round CPU/GPU combo for the masses. Notebook versions should be interesting

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2011 at 11:02

d_brennen said:
Or everyone else, who just want a computer for Facebook, playing HD video without mucking about with video cards and drivers and occasional Sims...

Yeah, that too.

clocka · 30 Jun 2011 at 11:05

Once the bios updates are out it looks as though you'll be able to get 25-40% overclock with 0-0.05V increase which makes it a pretty good bang for buck APU with no complex overclocking needed, just change the fsb from 100 to 125 or 130. Unfortunately some boards only allow 10% until ssd's stop working, some 25% then usb3 stops working, bios updates should hopefully fix these things or maybe chipset drivers.

Minstadave · 30 Jun 2011 at 11:13

d_brennen said:
Is that not amazing enough? Good all round CPU/GPU combo for the masses. Notebook versions should be interesting

Notebook version should be a big step forwards but this I'm not really seeing as a big thing. It's nothing you couldn't achieve with a cheap Athlon and low range graphics card, albeit neater and slightly cheaper perhaps. It's a shame they didn't push the CPU a bit further, it's pretty old tech with a GPU bolted on.

Minstadave · 30 Jun 2011 at 11:13

d_brennen said:
Or everyone else, who just want a computer for Facebook, playing HD video without mucking about with video cards and drivers and occasional Sims...

Edit: Llano playing Crysis 2

Still will have drivers surely?

Edit - clocks nicely though in that vid, be interesting to see what our results will be.

Gashman · 30 Jun 2011 at 14:05

rather impressed personally, that plays Crysis II better than a lot of peoples PC with dedicated graphics cards and smoother than my 360 as well!

can see these being a big hit if they are priced well and undercut their rivals whilst offering better 'gaming' performance, would guess big success in the notebook world since they seem to destroy things like i3 in gaming benchmarks.

would be perfect for a mini ITX or really slim micro ATX setup where space is a serious premium, since those sorts of setups don't tend to have massive monitors and such with them for obvious reasons, could see Llano being great for that, combined with a decent medium sized monitor.

Minstadave · 30 Jun 2011 at 14:26

Don't forget that the system they're using has taken Hicookie to get it to that stage and probably a cherry picked chip.

munz · 30 Jun 2011 at 14:55

ideal for htpc? if a little overkill

the RRP something like this?

A6 = £89.99 inc VAT
A8 = 104.99 inc VAT

not too bad i guess when athlon x2 + hd 6450 comes to around £80.

Phatzy · 30 Jun 2011 at 15:18

As games are just console ports these days this is a good hit for AMD on the high street.

Redmint · 30 Jun 2011 at 15:28

Could be nice with an ITX board for a super tiny GPU-less media/gaming machine.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jun 2011 at 16:36

AMD is going to sell a Black Edition Llano:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-a8-3850-llano,review-32222-7.html

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jun 2011 at 16:49

The HD6550D seems to be quite a decent IGP.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/C/E/298526/original/call of duty 1680.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/6/N/298319/original/call of duty memory scaling.png

http://media.bestofmicro.com/C/K/298532/original/world of warcraft 1680.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39382.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39380.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39379.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39378.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39377.png

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4476/39376.png

http://hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1697/fc.png

The HD6550D should be able to run many modern games at 1366X768 and 1440X900 at medium settings. A few will run at 1680X1050 too. The Crossfire scaling needs to improve and hopefully AMD will release better drivers in the near future.

The 65W A8-3800 has the same HD6550D IGP too!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-2/dirt-2.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-2/l4d-2.png

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-a8-3800/charts-2/hawx-2.png

munz · 30 Jun 2011 at 16:53

do ya think lower the TDP version (65w) will me more expensive than the 100w version like i3-2100 and i3-2100t?

and when are Ocuk gonna get these in stock? i saw the new mobo are up now!

iakhtar · 30 Jun 2011 at 17:07

I think it's brilliant, will be a godsend for laptops and will hopefully strengthen the pc market in terms of gaming.

Reaper 392 · 30 Jun 2011 at 17:18

for guys like us who want a super high end gaming rig that processor will be a waste of time because, by the looks of things, its not up to i5 2500k standards. however, the onboard graphics are very impressive, so this will be a godsend for everyone who wants to do some light gaming on the cheap, or have a really small HTPC that can do some decent gaming.

it will also be great if they can get that sort of performance in laptops too

d_brennen · 30 Jun 2011 at 17:24

Reaper 392 said:
for guys like us who want a super high end gaming rig that processor will be a waste of time because, by the looks of things, its not up to i5 2500k standards. however, the onboard graphics are very impressive, so this will be a godsend for everyone who wants to do some light gaming on the cheap, or have a really small HTPC that can do some decent gaming.

it will also be great if they can get that sort of performance in laptops too

Lucky it isn't for us guys then

Llano isn't aimed at 2500k. For the people it's aimed at its better!

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