Teachers on strike

Good luck to all those on trike today - full support for teachers and civil servants here - they provide an important service to this country and deserve our admiration and respect, not our envy and jealousy.

Well done for standing up for your well earned T&C's.

To those from the private sector (I'm a private sector worker) who bemoan they don't get as generous a pension - get off your arse and do something about it then! Join a Union and fight - everyone deserves a good pension! Stop this race to the bottom!

On strike but not on strike? odd.
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Not that odd - just shows it's a last resort and they still actually want to do their work - this is just a warning shot across the bows to get the government to listen and actually negotiate (not dictate which is what they've been doing so far). The battle starts this autumn.
 
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Draeger said:
In every single thread about industrial action being taken by a group of workers, there are always posts by clueless individuals who say "If they don't like it then leave and get another job".

It is after all a very informed, rational and intelligent comment to make. :rolleyes:
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It is in fact a part of life of working in the private sector. If you don't like your job you move. If you are in disagreement with your employer you go through the normal channels and if at the end of it you are still not happy you go and look in the classified section of the newspaper and get a new job.

Private sector workers have been doing it since time began, so why do public sector workers think they can go about this country thinking they are the golden children of England at the expense of each and every single taxpayer
 
platypus said:
Yeah and you've jumped on my post because you think I was having a dig at teachers, when I wasn't, I was having a dig in particular at the teachers I personally know who have voted to strike and arranged a day out on the lash.
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Not at all actually, they probably figured half the teachers for that year were going on strike, meaning that year group would not come in, therefore meaning theyd have to go and cover for other peoples lessons due to the lack of staff.

So they took the day off unpaid. Is it right, no :)

topshot said:
oh please, you expect us to believe teachers work 15hours a day everyday?
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No, they don't, but I know for a fact a lot of them start at 7/8, and don't come home till 5/6. Then after that they'll normally do some planning.

As has been pointed out countless of times, not every teacher will do this. Just like not every private sector employee will work over time for free.
 
Delvis said:
From 7 till 10? Your average joe doesn't work those hours
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For every teacher that puts in 3+ hours extra work a day, there is one who scrapes through on the absolute bare minimum, without a care for the people they are teaching or any teaching standards.

Crass generalisation of course, but I know a lot of teachers, and I know the good ones and I know the bad ones. Perhaps if the world of teaching was a bit more careful about who was allowed to teach, there would be fewer teachers, producing higher quality work, with much higher salaries and pensions being affordable?
 
We all have to make sacrifices due to the current climate, also people live longer this day and age so this makes extra pressure on the pension system.

My private pension has changed, I cannot do much about it and I'll more likely have to work a little longer :(

Unfortunately these things have to be done so we don't end up like Greece, Ireland etc etc.
 
The strikes look a bit of a flop going by the lunchtime news. On the radio last night, only a tiny % even took part in the ballet to strike as well?
 
Forde said:
So, to sum up the thread...

1) People who actually know what is involved in teaching support teachers.
2) People who don't know what is involved in teaching don't support teachers and think they should 'suck it up'.

True?
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I wouldnt go that far, I've worked in education for the last few decades and whilst I support the teachers right to strike, I wouldnt say that I support them striking today. To be fair I have only bothered to cast a cursory glance over the whys and why nots of the strike and I'm not against todays strike, I'm just not for it. I'm quite apathetic towards it really.

Quite loving all the placards (mainly with socialist worker written on them) saying that Cameron must go. If I was Cameron I actually would go, just to see where people place the "blame" after I've gone. Would give me quite a few giggles I suspect.
 
topshot said:
50 hours? DEAR GOD!!! me and my mrs do that on average along with millions of others
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50 hours would be a dream for me right now tbh. By this evening, ill be beyond 50 this week with 3x 12 hour days to go.
 
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amigafan2003 said:
Good luck to all those on trike today - full support for teachers and civil servants here - they provide an important service to this country and deserve our admiration and respect, not our envy and jealousy.

Well done for standing up for your well earned T&C's.

To those from the private sector (I'm a private sector worker) who bemoan they don't get as generous a pension - get off your arse and do something about it then! Join a Union and fight - everyone deserves a good pension! Stop this race to the bottom!



Not that odd - just shows it's a last resort and they still actually want to do their work - this is just a warning shot across the bows to get the government to listen and actually negotiate (not dictate which is what they've been doing so far). The battle starts this autumn.
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What, like the Greeks? lol, look at what is happening to them!
 
topshot said:
50 hours? DEAR GOD!!! me and my mrs do that on average along with millions of others
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:rolleyes:

That's actually door to door, that doesn't include the many many extra hours of marking and planning at home she does :rolleyes:

So in total I'd say she does nearer 65 hours a week with planning and marking included.
 
topshot said:
You somehow fail to see the need to make these cuts. They are not doing it for fun or because they just decided to halfway through. They cam to government with huge debts etc. These need to be addressed, its happening to private sector, why should teachers be any different?

if you cant afford to lose 88quid i would suggest reviewing your financial position as things are going to get tougher before they get better
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Where were the Tories during the last decade? they sat back and watched Labour let the banks go wild and not once do I remember them speaking up in the commons about how the banks needed to be more heavily regulated. We were balancing on a knife edge for years and the Tories were happy to let it happen.

If anyone is to pay then teachers who voted labour during the previous two elections should be paying a higher percentage.
 
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Fully support the strike.

good teachers are hard to come by lets not alienate them even more.

Thankfully my mother retired last year after 35 years of service nearly killing her twice through stress.

as for the recession If you want to save money on schools stop breeding. :)
 
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