come on, stop being silly.
Tory plans in a Pickle . . . yet again!
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come on, stop being silly.
I am sick of seeing people having children when they cant afford it and sponging off the state to support it rather than working. £2500 a month to live? What a joke, how many 'working' people would love that luxury.
I have worked since I was 16, worked through university and am now working full time. People in England are to stubborn and stuck up to 'just get a job', they then blame it on the immigrants and blame it on the current government. I recruited shortly before where I am now and I'll tell you one thing, there is no motivation from people to go out and look for work. They expect a job to just land in their hands ready for the taking.
Rant over.
Where as now you have people living in areas they can't afford propped up by housing benefit.
I don't know, but I imagine that £2500 a month rent for a family in London and the South East wouldn't be excessive? Of course, the family could always be forced to move to an area of high unemployment and consequent low rents
Well if you can't afford to live in a nice area why should you be subsidised to do so?
Of course its a problem. Political Party A promises X gets voted in and does some of the things they promised then things start going sour and in the next election Party B promises Y to sort out Party A's failed areas of promises X and duely gets voted in and so the cycle repeats....Party C, D, E wont get a look in because they are not mainstream enough and essentially people don't want change from the norm. Or should that be people don't want to give the other parties a chance because they will feel like they are wasting their vote by not voting for Party A or B.
Let us just stick with the Labour policy of ignoring this and keep ploughing more money at the problem.
Something needs to change drastically, you have people working their **** off, who can barely afford the rent each month to live a semi decent flat with one bedroom. How is that fair?
Something needs to change drastically, you have people working their **** off, who can barely afford the rent each month to live a semi decent flat with one bedroom. How is that fair?
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Maybe they were born there, or have family there. Or they can't afford to up and move to another part of the country....
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I really have no sympathy for people getting given more money a week than I pay a month on rent for not doing any work (along with all their other benefits) - but maybe thats just me.
I have had to move around the country for employment, why should it be any different for them? It's not as if they have a job holding them in one place...
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I have had to move around the country for employment, why should it be any different for them? It's not as if they have a job holding them in one place...
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Are your arguments really so weak that every one needs a pathetic insult or 'witty' pun to back it up?
How can you keep posting knowing that the entire forum thinks you post complete and utter undiluted rubbish?
I don't know, but I imagine that £2500 a month rent for a family in London and the South East wouldn't be excessive? Of course, the family could always be forced to move to an area of high unemployment and consequent low rents
£2500 is a massive amount for rent, even where I live near your favourite place Eton. You could get a detached family home within a few miles of here for half that.
I guess you didn't read the article because the current situation is actually cheaper for the country than these proposals will be.
Number 1 priority cutting the deficit? I don't think so - with the Conservatives, homelessness is where the heart is...
Tea spat all over the place!
I have read the article and it's always the same argument. Any attempt at fixing the problem will cost more in the short term.
Well we have to tackle these problems or they will just escalate out of control. At the moment the UK is being held to ransom by Landlords who know they can get away with charging those amounts as the goverment has to pay it.
Don't worry benefits are due to be capped at £26,000.
Ask yourself, why bust a gut for £2000?
Benefits should be capped at the level of the national minimum wage.
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they should be capped for x amount of time tbh
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Are you seriously going to suggest to me that mention of the "big boned" Pickles is inappropriate
Sounds like an absolute bargain, I wonder why more people don't live there? Perhaps there aren't many local job opportunities for anyone other than burglars
Commendable. Is that your total 'Family' income then?
Fascinating though all this, it does rather miss the point that the Tories are clearly blindly embarking on these ill-considered, deliberately socially divisive schemes for reasons of dogma rather than anything else. They then realise that they make no sense and are electoral time-bombs and quickly retreat in utter confusion.
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Why not write a big whiny book about it? But I suppose if one strings your incessant dribble of tiresome Tory bashing threads together, you'd pretty much have a book right there.
Oh, and;
Oh, and;
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Are you seriously going to suggest to me that mention of the "big boned" Pickles is inappropriate
I would hope your arguments would stand up on their own merits.